HomeMy WebLinkAboutchat11:21:06 From Josh Peters to Hosts and panelists : https://www.co.jefferson.wa.us/1731/Short-Term-Rentals
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09:00:48 Are we ready to go.
09:00:50 Yeah, I would love to do a sound check with someone online. Josh, I see Josh is there, and he's available to do a sound check for us.
09:00:57 Mark. Can you give him a testing? 1, 2, 3.
09:01:00 Just say it.
09:01:01 Testing.
09:01:03 Testing. 1, 2, 3, Josh, can you hear?
09:01:06 Mark over there. It looks like we're going off the microphone on the.
09:01:11 On the owl.
09:01:12 I can hear everybody just fine.
09:01:14 Okay. Great.
09:01:15 Thank you. Josh, okay, uh, it is. July 8.th
09:01:22 2024.
09:01:22 And I will call this meeting of the Jefferson County Board of Commissions to order.
09:01:27 Commissioner Dean is delayed a little bit this morning, so I will.
09:01:31 Dan, and for her, for.
09:01:33 Maybe an hour or hour and a half.
09:01:35 And um calls to order, and as we do with every meeting, I will start with public comment.
09:01:42 Is there anybody in the room wishing to make public comment.
09:01:44 Maggie coming up, and then cheap back.
09:01:51 Good morning!
09:01:52 Good morning. Happy 4.th
09:01:56 It's the 8.th
09:02:01 Um so.
09:02:03 What we're really talking about when we talk about what was happening in 2 and 9 street shelter is a violation of housing laws.
09:02:16 So it turns out, you must have at least one operating sink, one operating toilet, and one operating shower in violation of the fair housing laws. Now, when they blocked access.
09:02:30 To the working toilet.
09:02:33 Didn't understand that when they block one of the showers was.
09:02:38 Don't know for sure, and now has 5Â min of hot water, and then it goes cold. That's number 2.
09:02:46 Number one is working.
09:02:50 It turns out.
09:02:51 That the light was never non-functional in there, and Terry told them to block access to the shower. Don't know why.
09:02:59 I I don't know the story behind that, but that's what I'm says.
09:03:05 So.
09:03:06 It kind of sounds. It begins to sound like retaliation or something.
09:03:12 But also maybe misappropriations of funds, because you can't fix. You don't have enough money to fix things being in a.
09:03:23 Flood, zone.
09:03:24 Where you're below sea level, and we have to fix uh toilets that have pumps on them all the time. I again, this is a similar situation.
09:03:35 That is being faced by um, a gold Conda property. It's a Federal property that is supposed to be set aside for low income and shelter.
09:03:45 It's got a commercial kitchen, a basketball court. It's got walkers and showers and toilets uh, and it's a beautiful building classrooms and sitting on a severe blood.
09:03:58 Flood zone uh on the border of Illinois and Kentucky. And this is what the Feds wanna offer.
09:04:05 Is okay. Well, then, what do you do when it floods? And you've got the whole expense of the mess.
09:04:10 The server, and all that.
09:04:13 So what I'm suggesting is.
09:04:17 There are grants out there. There's a house over on Lawrence and Calhoun, 6, 34, 2 bedroom.
09:04:26 And it's got a great kitchen. It's called laundry. It's got a backyard. It's got 2 garages close to the library. It's closer to the courthouse.
09:04:35 Uh, let's turn it into a peer. Run facility. And uh put 2 people inside. I've seen similar grants. You can start with emergency grants.
09:04:46 And um! Let's turn into a peer. Run.
09:04:51 House um operating services when other services are not operating.
09:04:57 Um. So we can discuss that more later, because, you know, I only have 3Â min here.
09:05:03 So alright. Thank you.
09:05:06 Thank you, Maggie. Is there anyone else in the room wishing public comment? I saw your hand deep.
09:05:14 Happy Monday. I'd like to commend the county for the leadership that they've demonstrated with.
09:05:19 All things cwp their patients, and persistence and tenacity.
09:05:24 Is appreciated. We've come to the finish line on that phase of the project.
09:05:29 But what I would like you to call your attention to is, you have something on your agenda today to continue.
09:05:35 The management of the scope uh the advisory group, and all of the partners.
09:05:41 Using Swca.
09:05:44 And just wanted to highlight how important that proposal is. I know it's expensive.
09:05:49 But just as a reminder to the uh the schemeers, we live in a beautiful place uh, that has a great lifestyle. That's why we all live here.
09:05:59 But we are remote, and our staff among all the members of the Advisory group is limited, and none of us have the capacity.
09:06:08 To maintain the cwt, and even grow it beyond what it is.
09:06:13 I worry that if we don't.
09:06:15 Have this consultant to continually manage the program.
09:06:19 That we're gonna do the best we can, but not the best for outcome for the community. Uh, we face a number of threats.
09:06:26 Living in a remote community, like by a predecessor mentioned with flooding.
09:06:31 Earthquake tsunamis, other disasters, wildfires. One of the existential threats that we actually face on a regular basis in the last 24Â h is a prime example where we have a
number of brush fires.
09:06:45 In the county, in our Fire district, and others.
09:06:48 And that needs, you know, careful strategic planning to frame preventative and proactive measures to make sure that we, the community, can access elements of the Cwpp and our
public officials are aligned with um, all of that strategy. The last thing I'll mention is uh Friday had a great presentation at a small group in Port Love, though, and everybody knows
about Cw.
09:07:13 Of the community, not just because of the annoying fire chief echoing it, but because of all of us.
09:07:18 Being part of that collaborative effort.
09:07:20 So people are asking really good and hard questions. So what can we do next? What should we should be prepared for next.
09:07:27 The awareness in the community, I think, is at a really high.
09:07:30 Level, and we don't want to lose that momentum. And uh that, I just wanna say thanks again for considering the uh the agenda. I so.
09:07:38 Thanks, thanks, Ted. Anyone else in the room wanting to make public comment this morning.
09:07:45 Seeing any other hands go up. Is there anyone with us online who would like to make public comment? You can use to raise.
09:07:51 Hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
09:07:54 I see Shelley has her hand up. Yeah. Julie Cochran had her hand. Oh, there it goes up again, and Julia.
09:08:01 Bringing you guys over anyone else. Um want to put their hand up and get in line. We'd.
09:08:07 Love to hear from you this morning. It's gorgeous morning.
09:08:10 Um. Let's start with Shelley.
09:08:15 So you'll need to unmute, and you'll have 3Â min once you get going.
09:08:23 Shelly. We can't hear you. You looks like you're still muted.
09:08:26 Okay, how about now.
09:08:27 Okay, there, you go.
09:08:28 Okay, perfect.
09:08:29 Good morning!
09:08:30 We have just survived. Another 8 day, 4th of July.
09:08:34 I'm going to address specifically South County, and more specifically to events causing the issue to come to a head.
09:08:42 First.st
09:08:43 A lazy resident, who, by his own admission, fired off 30,000 illegal fireworks.
09:08:49 And it really was many, many more than that over the fort date 14 day period of time, that he shot them off in our little neighborhood.
09:08:56 And yes, you did hear that right. 30,000 illegal fireworks.
09:09:02 And the public fireworks show and cool thing, concentrating a large number of people in a small location, with no permit and no insurance.
09:09:11 Even more disturbing to me is that there was pressure place to just give him a permit.
09:09:16 It feels like the carefully crafted ordinance about fireworks.
09:09:20 Is dismally.
09:09:21 Inadequate and needs to be redone Asap. So we begin to address this now rather than right. Before the next 8 day, 4th of July.
09:09:30 We're requiring pleasant harbor to take extraordinary steps to protect our water sources. Yet we give free rain to shoot fireworks with dangerous chemicals and heavy metals
into the water.
09:09:43 Along with the safety of our citizens. Somehow, that just doesn't make sense to me. When we know better. We should do better.
09:09:50 Port Townsend has handled this issue, we should promptly follow. Thank you.
09:09:56 Thanks for your comment, Shelley. Um.
09:09:59 Julia, you'll have 3Â min for comment, and then we'll bring John Hamilton over.
09:10:04 After Julia.
09:10:06 Good morning, Julia.
09:10:08 Oh, sorry! I accidentally brought up.
09:10:12 Sorry, Julia, bringing you back.
09:10:19 Just on my phone.
09:10:23 Sorry, Julia.
09:10:26 That's fine!
09:10:28 The technology defeats me all the time.
09:10:30 Um.
09:10:31 So let's see, I just wanted to say I think we have a shelter coalition meeting this morning this week, and I'm hoping I'm just reminding Greg and hoping that that's true, and
wondering what our agenda is.
09:10:45 I had tried to reach out to Pastor Melanie.
09:10:49 And a heather. I have not checked my email this morning. Um!
09:10:53 About doing some type of volunteer thing, and uh, for food at the shelter is this topic.
09:11:00 And my little brainstorm is is that I think we should hire somebody.
09:11:06 Um. There are. There are community cooks.
09:11:09 And have them um, come up with a menu and um buy food within a budget.
09:11:16 And that then we work at volunteers to support this person, to do the prepping.
09:11:20 I am not a cook, so I'm not gonna sound intelligent, but to support this person.
09:11:25 And to serve the food, and to do whatever else is shelter needs. Wash your dishes. I am a dishwasher.
09:11:31 I volunteer washed.
09:11:32 Possibly 5 days a week.
09:11:34 Um.
09:11:36 But I'm not getting anywhere reaching out um, and I don't know what's happening right now. So there's that topic. I have a 3rd topic that's really sort of off topic for me is
that me and many, many other people in this community.
09:11:50 I've been saving bottle caps.
09:11:52 With the hope that that little company was going to come back.
09:11:55 And take our bottle caps and chop them up into 3D. Printing material.
09:12:00 I. They do not seem to be coming back.
09:12:03 And at least not now, and um.
09:12:07 I would I I would like.
09:12:09 Jefferson County to figure out a way to engage with this topic.
09:12:13 Because bottle caps is an easy thing, and if they can be chopped up for 3D. Printing, let's find somewhere to send it to. I've been trying to do it on my own, but I don't know
enough.
09:12:24 Okay, that's it.
09:12:26 Have a great week.
09:12:29 Thanks, Julia.
09:12:32 John, good morning. You'll have 3Â min for comment this morning.
09:12:38 Okay.
09:12:39 Good morning, Commissioners! Uh.
09:12:42 Just.
09:12:43 I just wanna.
09:12:45 Reiterate what the woman she said uh! And also back up somewhat.
09:12:50 Chief, but was talking about.
09:12:51 And it's about the fireworks on a 4th of July. Um.
09:12:55 The uh.
09:12:57 Neighbors of mine in Port Hadlock have been complaining about the noise and the long term.
09:13:03 Fireworks going from Thursday through Saturday night. Um.
09:13:07 Uh every night, and uh.
09:13:09 Personally, I don't know how some of these people that fire off all this stuff can afford to do it. You're just burning up money. There.
09:13:17 But the issue is when we talk about burnings things up, they um.
09:13:23 The temperatures these days are getting higher every year.
09:13:26 We're breaking heat records every year. We've got a heat alert all across the country this year.
09:13:32 It's gonna be right now at this point in time, and it's gonna get worse next year. In the years after.
09:13:38 Uh, I think it's important that the county follow Port Townsend and.
09:13:43 Um.
09:13:45 Eliminate the use of private fireworks within the county area.
09:13:49 Uh! It's a hazard.
09:13:51 To all of the citizens. Um.
09:13:54 It's too easy to start a fire in this heat.
09:13:57 Uh and um! We've had a fortune out.
09:13:59 In one way it was fortunate we had a wet June, but in the other hand.
09:14:05 Uh, that created a lot of brush.
09:14:06 That is now drying up in his perfect fuel for a fire.
09:14:10 So um just wanna have.
09:14:13 You consider again.
09:14:15 The elimination of fireworks in a county.
09:14:17 For private use. Thank you, and have a great day.
09:14:21 Thank you, John. Is there anyone else with us online this morning who would like to make public comment.
09:14:27 Please use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring Mr.
09:14:37 Good morning, Tom. You'll have 3Â min for public comment this morning.
09:14:44 And every Sunday morning.
09:14:48 Uh, good morning, Commissioners. Uh, I just wanna echo the concerns about fireworks that have been expressed.
09:14:55 Uh brought this up week ago 2 weeks ago.
09:14:59 They uh.
09:15:00 The excuse is given for not for you folks not taking action on this is that it's apparently politically difficult, and there are some apparently.
09:15:09 Strong, lobbying groups that might oppose any restrictions.
09:15:13 And my question for you is.
09:15:15 What lobbies! Wait a minute.
09:15:18 What lobbyists are influencing the county commissioners in any way.
09:15:21 That would justify the endangerment of the public with these fireworks that.
09:15:26 I I don't. I don't know the politics of it.
09:15:29 Uh serious question. I would like to know who who all would be exerting pressure upon you.
09:15:36 To keep fireworks the way they are. Uh, that. It just seems unreasonable to me that there would be any.
09:15:42 Big moneyed groups that would be influencing your electability or anything else.
09:15:48 Uh.
09:15:49 You know it used to be.
09:15:51 Decades ago now that uh, almost.
09:15:54 I talked to the county commissioners about this, and.
09:15:57 David Sullivan would say, Oh, well, yeah. The charitable organizations. The Boy Scouts raise money.
09:16:04 Well.
09:16:05 Sorry.
09:16:06 They can raise money somewhere else some other way, and I don't think they do that anymore, anyway. So I really don't know.
09:16:13 What! What the inflow, the powers that be.
09:16:16 We're influencing these these decisions.
09:16:18 Who who those folks are, and uh, and why you would even listen to them if if they do even exist. So that's my question my comment. Thank you.
09:16:28 Thank you, Tommy. Appreciate your comments this morning.
09:16:32 Anyone else with us online this morning who would like to make a public.
09:16:36 If so.
09:16:37 See a number of folks over there.
09:16:41 Interested in.
09:16:43 Adding your voice to the choir this morning.
09:16:47 Seeing any other hands go up.
09:16:51 Okay? Well, I'll leave public comment up until 9 30, in case.
09:16:55 Anyone has moved to make a comment. But, um! We'll start with responses and.
09:17:01 Yeah, I will go 1st over to Greg first, st and.
09:17:04 Um, thank you. Everyone for your public comments. And uh.
09:17:07 Hope everyone had a you know, as good of a 4th as they could. Um to Maggie. Appreciate your comments. Um.
09:17:15 I think.
09:17:16 I'd love to focus on the the new iteration of the the shelter out on Monroe Street, and I think that.
09:17:23 Concerted effort to keep Water Street from being underwater, and it's not quite underwater yet, so I don't think that's.
09:17:29 An acute issue. Um! I'd love to have the money to buy a house for everybody that needs a house, but we don't really have the resources to buy a pure support house. Right now
we've.
09:17:39 We've uh found budget capacity, and we're putting general fund dollars. It's it's it's.
09:17:45 Well, Maggie, I'm sorry um.
09:17:49 We've we've already supported a path, and we'll get more information as Basside takes over operation. We want to do everything we can to make that bridge management of the emergency
shelter at the existing location uh function as well as it can, including operating showers and operating bathrooms. I wasn't sure exactly if some of the.
09:18:08 Um.
09:18:09 The previous situation. But I know that Bayside has been looking at the plumbing and and really addressing the issues and.
09:18:16 I guess. I hope that we can move forward and try to find solutions at that location uh together. And you know, as Julia said, we are having a shelter coalition meeting tomorrow,
and, Maggie, if you'd like to join us, it's online only, but we'd love to have you there. Um.
09:18:31 And in response to Julia's question about what the agenda is, we're really just kind of doing a little after action.
09:18:37 The county was a little behind, and some of our our duties gave it, getting all the contracts ready. Uh, you know, we didn't get the power signed over. And so like, we were
scampering last week, too. So we're really what we're doing this week is just what what else? What other plates. Had we forgotten about that? Are up there, spinning on the steps and
making sure that we can keep this operation going as smoothly as possible, and we recognize that it's.
09:18:58 It's not perfect.
09:19:00 Um. But it is a path, and it's a plan that we're gonna.
09:19:04 Continue to follow, to, to keep that shelter operating.
09:19:07 Uh 2 Chief Black appreciate the advocacy for the Cwp. Uh, it's on a consent, agenda to put, you know, 80 to 125 K into implementation. It's I mean, it starts to feel like, maybe
we should just have a staff member in Dean if we're talking about this much money, but those title $3, I know, are pretty restricted in their application.
09:19:27 I think the only other potential application we ever had for those title. $3 was.
09:19:32 Um.
09:19:34 Uh buying a truck for Jefferson County search and rescue, which the sheriff's department did anyways. So I guess.
09:19:40 Yeah, it's it's if this is the positive thing that we can do with that money. And I wanna make sure that it is implemented appropriately. I I appreciate.
09:19:49 Uh Chief Blacks.
09:19:50 Advocacy, for it.
09:19:52 Um to Shelley about uh fireworks.
09:19:56 Just.
09:19:57 Uh, and also, I guess, to John and and Tom a little bit too.
09:20:01 The lobbying that we talk about, I think, is really what in is.
09:20:06 Our explanation for the State law that requires a year.
09:20:12 Waiting period after any local change, to fireworks, rules, or laws.
09:20:17 So that is, if we change the law today to ban fireworks in Jefferson County, it would not take effect.
09:20:23 On the 4th of July 2025. It would take.
09:20:27 On July 8, th 2025. So we've already missed next 4th of July.
09:20:31 When we did change these uh laws 2 years ago. Now.
09:20:36 Uh, we were really trying to make them science based, and take the the politics as much as possible out and leave it in the hands of the subject matter, professionals, and the
fire departments, and our fire Marshal.
09:20:47 To establish whether there was a.
09:20:50 Um. Significant.
09:20:52 Health and safety risk based on atmospheric conditions.
09:20:55 To prevent fireworks. We didn't have that. If we had them. If this Thursday was the 4th of July, they would probably be banned according to our existing rules. But last week
we had rained.
09:21:04 And uh, it sounds like there were a lot of fireworks down at Lazy. I'm I'm sorry about that. I know that the sheriff's office. We talked a little bit about.
09:21:15 Their plan, and I know they were being more proactive about the gardener. Boat land launch, and I have not heard any horrors. Stories from the gardener community, so I assume
that was.
09:21:25 Effective at preventing some of the other.
09:21:28 Nuisance activities that happen around that you know, camping on.
09:21:32 Public non camping property, riding Atvs across neighbors, lawns, and all the other.
09:21:37 Um extra impacts that that neighborhood has complained about with fireworks in in years past.
09:21:43 Um.
09:21:44 I'm always open to talking about a total fireworks, but we are a rural county, and you know, like many things.
09:21:51 I think we're pretty divided as a community about whether fireworks are.
09:21:57 A healthy expression of our patriotic.
09:22:00 Uh pride or uh noisy explosions. I think I've been clear that I'm not a fireworks fan. I did not blow any fireworks up or.
09:22:09 Shoot garbage into the lake myself. But uh.
09:22:11 It is important to a lot of people and.
09:22:14 I guess we can. We can continue to have this conversation this summer, if uh.
09:22:18 If if you know, that's the if we want to. But I'm still.
09:22:21 It felt like a pretty good 4.th I don't think there were any disasters that happened. There are people that do not like the fireworks and and people that.
09:22:29 Really like them right next door, and that causes uh tension.
09:22:34 It's yeah. But the lobbying groups are external.
09:22:37 Not here. Um, and they don't lobby us. We are only lobbied.
09:22:43 By our residents um and.
09:22:46 Obviously we can't make everyone happy all the time.
09:22:49 Um so happy to continue the the fireworks conversation. But I I am confident right now that our existing laws.
09:22:57 Do.
09:22:59 More to prevent wildfire and house fires, and all these real uh.
09:23:05 Extreme dangers that that fireworks can um present.
09:23:10 And then to I think I.
09:23:12 That was for John as well as Tom and Shelley, and for Julia. As I said, we're gonna really be seeing what's going on. What are the missing plates that we? We need to focus on.
09:23:22 And hopefully. Pastor Jackson will be at that meeting to talk about food and volunteers. I'm.
09:23:28 I stand at the ready to.
09:23:30 Um.
09:23:31 To come down and cook.
09:23:33 Um. There's some things I can cook very well, ham down and share it, and I don't think we have.
09:23:39 I mean, we've just spent a month.
09:23:43 Quickly putting together a budget the highest line items on that. As always, our salary so.
09:23:51 I don't think that we have more salary capacity now, but whether that.
09:23:55 Volunteer management, I hope, will rest on the shoulders of the shelter. That Bayside is is uh.
09:24:03 Hiring. I believe that uh heather is on vacation this week. So, Julia, you might not hear from her, but I hope the Pastor Jackson is at the Shelter Coalition meeting. Anyone
else that's interested in attending it. Please.
09:24:15 Shoot me an email at G. brotherton@co.jefferson, dot.
09:24:19 hua.us, and you can come. It's just on zoom.
09:24:23 And I think that.
09:24:25 Takes care of my response.
09:24:27 Okay, I'll add some, but I'll also make another call if anyone's.
09:24:30 Joined us and is interested in making public comment this morning. Public comment is still open. Until 9 30. You can use the raise hand button.
09:24:37 At the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring you over and give you your 3Â min on the.
09:24:43 Warm sunshine.
09:24:45 Um so.
09:24:47 It.
09:24:47 I guess I'll start with fireworks. You know I I um.
09:24:52 As a county commissioner, I think the most.
09:24:55 Stressful night and morning of my life have been the 4th and 5th of July since I was elected, and.
09:25:01 Um.
09:25:02 Because I.
09:25:03 I don't enjoy fireworks. I I enjoy my dogs.
09:25:06 And they despise the fireworks, and I know a lot of other um.
09:25:11 Animals and.
09:25:12 People. Not um.
09:25:17 Uh, people, not.
09:25:19 There's a lot of people who do not enjoy fireworks, but I know that, as Commissioner Brothers said, there's a also a number of people who do so. I feel like it.
09:25:27 It shouldn't be a political thing.
09:25:29 And I'm sure we're gonna get feedback on making that this these comments this morning. But.
09:25:35 I would say. I know that most of the fireworks that are ignited in Jefferson County are illegal fireworks.
09:25:42 And my my uh.
09:25:45 Evidence or my example that I have to draw on most. Um.
09:25:50 Personally, is the fireworks display that happens at the beach at the Chimne Creek, Arndale County Park.
09:25:59 And.
09:25:59 You know, I feel like.
09:26:02 We've kind of found a recipe that works there.
09:26:06 For the community and.
09:26:07 There was a lot of fireworks ignited at the Chimney Creek Park this year, and on the Wdfw property.
09:26:15 Um.
09:26:15 And then there was in the morning a number of volunteers came down to clean it up, and a lot of the folks, a number of the folks who came to clean up that next morning were
folks who had been there igniting fireworks the night before, so.
09:26:28 I feel like it's people and appreciate the ability and.
09:26:34 You know some people have said to me, Can we have a Geneva fireworks, Geneva? Can we have somewhere where it allows to ignite fireworks, and I know we've talked about that.
09:26:43 Before, and that might be something to consider. But.
09:26:46 Um, you know it's a concern, and I I was.
09:26:50 The the more. On July 5th I was one of the 1st things I thought doing is I should reach out to Chief Black and see how last night went and.
09:26:56 He reached out to me proactively before I could, and said.
09:26:59 We had. We didn't have one incident last night.
09:27:02 Related to fireworks so.
09:27:05 You know, I think we're getting to a place where we have might have a recipe that works with our new ordinance in place. We need to let it.
09:27:12 Um work and see.
09:27:15 If it's going to be the solution. But.
09:27:17 We also might come up with another idea, and I I would love to hear folks um pathways to what they think would be the best outcome for fireworks, because.
09:27:27 I know we have mixed opinions on that.
09:27:31 Um to Julia on the bottle caps. I am on swack, I will um.
09:27:37 Find out if there's a way, a a pathway for recycling but bottle caps. I'm not sure that there is plastic.
09:27:46 They're garbage. But there might be something out there. Yeah, I forgot to mention that. But don't buy plastic bottles. It's all garbage. Recognize that it's garbage. Refillable
water bundles.
09:27:58 Um.
09:28:00 And I I'm happy to cook for the shelter, Julia saying she can't cook. I I can cook, and I'm happy to cook, so.
09:28:07 Um.
09:28:08 I'll figure out how to get shuffled into that deck.
09:28:11 Um! You already.
09:28:12 I'm in the deck, but I haven't gotten the call to make.
09:28:17 Gallons and gallons of something.
09:28:21 Away too many tamales.
09:28:23 Um.
09:28:24 But you know it's I like Maggie's creative idea. I mean, it's never a bad idea to buy more property.
09:28:30 And I know I know we don't have uh extensive amounts of funding disposable revenue for that kind of.
09:28:37 Expense. But um, I think we should be open to creative ideas.
09:28:42 Um.
09:28:45 May comments could be all over the board.
09:28:48 Hire someone to cook for the shelter. And I like that idea, too.
09:28:50 Maybe I should apply for that job.
09:28:55 Um anyway.
09:28:55 So I think I don't have anything more to add other than what Commissioner Brotherton um.
09:29:01 Started with, and when I added to it, but I would really be interested in hearing.
09:29:05 Folks.
09:29:07 Specific ideas for the fireworks predicament. I feel like.
09:29:11 We took some, made some effort to get some.
09:29:14 Um.
09:29:16 Kind of rules in place this spring, and the um.
09:29:21 Fire danger level. Was that moderate.
09:29:23 Last week through the 4th of July. If it had been high, things have would have been much different, and I.
09:29:29 I'm not sure, in that instance, what the sheriff's office would need to enforce that ordinance. But we might wanna think about that eventuality. I don't think the Boosters were
there this year. Right? They were there, the fundraising question there. There was some.
09:29:48 Uh fireworks stand next to the sign shop at the intersection of Rody Road, and.
09:29:55 They raise money for this, the senior class, which in the school senior class, and it's a really.
09:30:01 Great fundraiser fundraiser for them, and we had to shut them down last year. I'm glad they could go ahead with their fundraising this year, but I think we'd have to come up
with a.
09:30:09 Another solution for them, and I'm sure Commissioner Brotherton will say will be to Molly making. But um, anyway, uh so.
09:30:20 One last call for public comment. Is there anyone with us this morning was not made public comment. Yet who would like to.
09:30:27 Add anything to the conversation this morning.
09:30:31 I see a number of new names on the attendee list.
09:30:35 Anyone interested in making a comment this morning.
09:30:39 Use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
09:30:44 Okay? Well, 9, 30. I'll close public comment.
09:30:48 And we will move on to the consent agenda.
09:30:55 Anything you want to call out on the consent agenda Commissioner.
09:30:59 Um.
09:31:00 Well, if I ever started at the band, I'm going to name it Dead Bird Citizen Science. I thought that was pretty funny. But uh operations for Jeff Com. And you know.
09:31:19 Would work with the Bhac, come through.
09:31:22 And uh, you know, the presentation that we had a couple of weeks ago about alternatives to traditional environmental complaints. Going into contract is is great. I really appreciate
that harm. Reduction approach to uh.
09:31:36 To.
09:31:37 That issue.
09:31:39 Um, and again the the Cw. P. You know I'm I'm.
09:31:45 Yeah, I guess I'm I'm ready to move forward again their funds. I don't know how this is sustainable because we're gonna drain those title $3 this year, right? And it's probably
a minimum of 80, and then not to exceed 125. Is that.
09:32:06 Yeah, no, it it seems precious. But we wanna you know.
09:32:09 You gotta press through to the end and make sure that you have have the uh the plan implemented. So I'm I'm happy to move forward on that.
09:32:17 That's all I have.
09:32:19 I'll just add, I'm.
09:32:21 I have a citizen who reaches out to me frequently about the.
09:32:25 Pens is around Memorial Field. I'm thrilled to see our parks.
09:32:30 Theme, going forward with.
09:32:32 Speaking, but I need to replace the fences around.
09:32:34 Memorial Field and.
09:32:37 Um. I will be happy to call Mr. Arthur when we get that grant, and let him know.
09:32:47 But I know it's been a long time. Long term need.
09:32:52 Because of this grant application, the repair that you authorize. We're not going to make that repair, and we'll use the money that you devoted to the repair to help cover the
grant. Great.
09:33:06 I'm also happy to see the Behavioral Health Advisory Committee recommendations being deployed here. And you know, reading these um.
09:33:14 Agreements. This is the second year of 2 years of funding, and that's why they're.
09:33:19 Doubling the request.
09:33:21 Um.
09:33:23 On the Cw. PP, I mean I was.
09:33:25 Applying the closest to this as Commissioner and.
09:33:29 It was a very robust.
09:33:31 Multi party process and.
09:33:34 One other thing other than fireworks that was waking me up in the night last year was, how are we gonna get this thing deployed.
09:33:41 And um.
09:33:42 Swca. Was awesome to work with. Our consultants were wonderful.
09:33:48 And we said, I think we think we're we're gonna need your help figuring out how to get this on the ground and keeping all of our team kind of coordinated and.
09:33:56 Building some tools to assist with that coordination. I feel like.
09:33:59 This is a really good investment in ensuring that. That's an effective community. Wildfire protection plan.
09:34:05 And if we don't do this, I feel like as T. Black said, it's gonna.
09:34:10 Um get the fragments of attention that it deserves.
09:34:14 From all of our partners.
09:34:17 And I will be too busy making tamales to to focus on being that the one who implements the Cdw.
09:34:26 Um.
09:34:28 Let's see.
09:34:29 Yeah.
09:34:30 I think that's it.
09:34:32 I'm.
09:34:33 Alright. Well, I'm happy to move that we approve and adopt the consent. Agenda, as presented.
09:34:38 I'll second.
09:34:40 And call the question all those in favor of adopting the consent. Agenda for July 8, th 24.
09:34:46 Aye.
09:34:48 Passes unanimously.
09:34:51 Um, okay, so 9, 30.
09:34:58 Mallory. Sorry we're a few minutes late, and and Katrina as well.
09:35:04 Hey, Carolyn, I don't have my computer, so I can't call up the Powerpoint.
09:35:09 Oh, they add grey.
09:35:11 Yeah, off the agenda.
09:35:14 Sure, or they can do it. I mean, they're remote, too. So if they have.
09:35:18 I think we should probably have him do it, because the Pdf. Is.
09:35:22 Not yet.
09:35:22 Substant.
09:35:25 I stand at the ready if it's necessary.
09:35:27 Katrina or Mallory. Can you guys be prepared to show that Powerpoint.
09:35:34 I, yeah.
09:35:37 It's cheap.
09:35:36 Um! Good morning. How's it going.
09:35:38 Morning.
09:35:39 Good.
09:35:40 Good um.
09:35:44 I am.
09:35:45 As we have seen in past meetings, notoriously that.
09:35:50 Using zoom as as bad as a millennial. Um, but I think I can manage here. Um.
09:35:58 Let me bring it up.
09:36:01 Also have Katrina brought up over.
09:36:03 She she might.
09:36:05 Be prepared to do that for you. I don't know. Nope.
09:36:08 Nope.
09:36:07 No, I'm seeing.
09:36:09 Yeah.
09:36:09 I can try.
09:36:10 Um.
09:36:11 It's fine.
09:36:14 I I've I've got those. I think.
09:36:16 Okay.
09:36:17 Right.
09:36:17 We're gonna do it.
09:36:19 Um. Just let me. I'm just. I'm pulling it up. Sorry one second.
09:36:23 Hmm.
09:36:25 Um so.
09:36:32 Oh!
09:36:27 Thanks for having us. I don't, Greg. I don't think you've met Katrina. Um, but this is.
09:36:33 Katrina Amaral. Um! She's a consultant I've hired, and um a business partner at this point, and, dear friend and she is, she runs a sawmill and logging business on the East
coast with her husband.
09:36:47 Um, and we met actually via social media a number of years ago now. And um! She does a lot of the ecological forestry along the same lines of what I do, but is coming from um
the other end of the logging and milling side of things, and has really like helped push me think through a lot of the chain of custody, and how we build a local economy, and how.
09:37:10 Um. You know her logging operations are so she has a background in um wildlife conservation. And so her forestry practices are so focused on um.
09:37:22 You know, uh kind of holistic uh, more sustainable forestry and forest management. And so it's really nice to have that operational and scientific background to also talk through
this. So.
09:37:34 She was also. Well, I'm sorry, Katrina. I'm introducing you.
09:37:39 You're doing great.
09:37:39 Um. I'll let you talk you. You can continue introducing yourself here.
09:37:44 Um, yeah, and potentially most relevant for today. Uh, specifically, I was also the executive director of a local land trust. Um. And so when I came on they.
09:37:54 They were at the point where they had been doing really amazing work. Um, but needed kind of to codify everything and and set themselves up for future success. Um! And so.
09:38:06 Um.
09:38:07 Mallory also brought me on, because, in addition to understanding, kind of.
09:38:12 Timber, dynamics, um.
09:38:14 Just having an outside perspective on all the work that the county's already been doing with the successful forestry program and and making sure that we work towards getting
it so that it is um, you know, replicable.
09:38:28 Uh for future use.
09:38:32 That's great!
09:38:31 That is kind of where the strategic plan work plan.
09:38:36 Whatever you want to call it comes in.
09:38:38 We? We've approved, you know, a 5 year contract with with chickadee um some months ago, and thought that this would be a good.
09:38:49 Overview as to the work that that we will be doing in partnership.
09:38:54 With Mallory and Katrina, and.
09:38:56 You know, trying to get to doing some temporary and making this kind of more of a revenue neutral program for the county. But.
09:39:04 Um, it's not something you just do magically, they need to plan for it. And so that's uh. What this plan is about is, how do we get.
09:39:12 Um.
09:39:13 A sustainable.
09:39:16 Forestry program for Jefferson County.
09:39:18 Yeah.
09:39:19 Yeah.
09:39:20 Um, so this is.
09:39:22 Obviously going to be more of a discussion to as much as you want, because this is time that we actually have with you. Uh to discuss all of this. So.
09:39:30 Um.
09:39:38 Yeah.
09:39:32 I. And I think you got the strategic plan draft ahead of time. I don't know if you had a chance to review that um. And so we're basically, okay, cool. So the.
09:39:41 Powerpoint is a high level view of that um, and then we're happy to talk about.
09:39:48 Everything else I know there's 1 other thing other things to mention is that there's a trust land transfer, application.
09:39:54 Presentation coming up.
09:39:56 Is it? Next week? 2 weeks, July 18.th
09:39:59 Um. So getting that together uh, and.
09:40:04 Um. Yeah, we can just talk about all things forestry. But I'll just uh let's see.
09:40:08 I share screen.
09:40:11 I don't know how to share your screen.
09:40:14 Green button. It says, Share.
09:40:17 I'll share a screen. Right? Sorry.
09:40:25 Mhm.
09:40:23 This is why I'm a forester. Um!
09:40:27 Okay.
09:40:28 If you click that little button to the bottom.
09:40:31 Of the Slider on the bottom right. You can go into the presentation mode.
09:40:34 Right now we see slides and such.
09:40:36 So.
09:40:38 Okay.
09:40:37 The little slider for the size there in the bottom.
09:40:40 Presentation button just to the left of that Slider.
09:40:43 Do I do view.
09:40:45 Oh!
09:40:44 I don't know the screen bottom of the screen very bottom of the screen, Mallory.
09:40:48 Very bottom.
09:40:50 What?
09:40:49 To the left of the Slider.
09:40:52 No! No! That! What?
09:40:51 Oh, there you go!
09:40:55 Sorry.
09:40:55 Thank you.
09:40:56 Alright!
09:40:57 Okay, we good.
09:40:58 Yeah.
09:40:59 Alright made it thanks for the coaching. Um.
09:41:03 So this is the.
09:41:05 Sorry to your strategic plan. Um.
09:41:08 The I'm Gonna let Katrina talk about the vision statement. I guess.
09:41:12 Yeah, I'll preface by saying.
09:41:16 Um. In April we met. I think it was in April we met with. Um all the advisors. I've changed the Advisory Board a little bit more to have it a little bit more balanced. One of
the um.
09:41:27 Uh critiques we got from last year was that we didn't have enough of the uh industry side of things represented, and so I've made an effort um to include more industry, especially
um pt, paper um in here and just make sure that like.
09:41:40 One of the things that has been controversial in this is that we are doing more ecologically focused forestry. Um, and that this feels like alienating to bigger industry and.
09:41:51 What I want to keep emphasizing is like we are not trying to replace bigger industries. Jefferson County will not do that. Um, this is a different model. We're working at a
different size and a scale, and we're working at for something that is complementary and um to the right scale for our community that is providing different set of jobs that skills
for our community. So um, part of the vision statement is.
09:42:14 Uh trying to capture that um. And Katrina did a great job, working with all of the advisors and just trying to pull together the ideas around the community to figure out how
to articulate that.
09:42:26 Um and Katrina, you wanna.
09:42:28 Chime in on that.
09:42:30 I mean, this is really driven by.
09:42:34 Folks I met. So um! This comes from kind of the the viewpoints in your community about what a successful forestry program would look like. Um.
09:42:44 And obviously Mallory and I have been working a lot kind of each independently on our respective coasts about how to create local scale wood economies. And so this this ties
in.
09:42:55 All of.
09:42:56 Those objectives? Um, as kind of an overall vision. For for what this program can do.
09:43:06 Yeah, so 25 years, we want a forestry program financially, self sustaining. Um model is successful multi-use forest management. So we want that economic benefit um community
benefit and ecological benefit triple bottom line kind of forestry. Here.
09:43:25 Um.
09:43:26 With Katrina. Um! She I mean.
09:43:30 She drilled me a lot which was really great, because a lot of the what I've struggled with is how much of this has been in pilot project in in my head, and.
09:43:38 I have all this data, and it's been really hard to kind of extrapolate it and figure out, how do we make a plan going forward now that we have all this baseline information.
And so she really helps clarify this into 5 focus areas, timber, harvest, land acquisition. Financial um.
09:43:55 And outreach and communication and partnerships. So for the next bit, we're just gonna go into each of these sections. And if there's.
09:44:03 Anything. If you have questions like, just jump in um. If there's any discussion you want to have.
09:44:11 Um.
09:44:12 Oh, and the acreage. Let's see.
09:44:15 Was this the 1st one?
09:44:17 Yeah, I guess this is a kind of side note, but the acreage target.
09:44:21 For us was um.
09:44:23 Because we have 3,000 acres about of forest land and Jefferson County, and as we've talked about a lot of that is in those smaller parcels less than 20 acres, which makes management
difficult.
09:44:34 Part of what our long longer goal is is to get 6,000 acre or.
09:44:38 Um to get 6,000 acres is what we think.
09:44:43 We would need as a baseline to make this financially stable program.
09:44:48 And we did that. There's there's some calculations behind that um that I don't have in front of me, but I can go into that more in more detail, later.
09:45:00 Um.
09:45:02 So this is.
09:45:04 Did you wanna add and add anything, Katrina? I'm just Gonna.
09:45:09 Kind of.
09:45:10 Okay.
09:45:08 No go for it. Um, yeah, we we do have numbers backing up all of this because Mallory has been extremely good at tracking literally everything. And so, honestly, my job was just
to like, take all this amazing data and be like, okay, let's just clump it and bin it into.
09:45:25 Into goals, going forward.
09:45:27 Yeah, it's been really helpful to have that second set of eyes, and then kind of a fresh set of eyes coming into Jefferson county to see this, because I am definitely in the
weeds on this.
09:45:36 Um. So for the forest management to reiterate, we've talked about this a lot, but because this is in front of the public. Uh, I just wanted to reiterate the county scale. Forest
management is something different. Um, this is something that is appropriate to the scale of the county.
09:45:51 Uh, we are doing selective um and uh in a in areas that.
09:45:57 Um 20 to 30 year, announce.
09:46:00 Um. So that will be. That's, for example. So if there's a 200 acre parcel we can come in and maybe do 50 acres, um of thinning and variable density thinning. So there will be
different kinds of intensities within that, because what we're trying to do is mimic natural disturbance conditions.
09:46:16 Um, and then also generate um.
09:46:19 Timber revenue. So each harvest is.
09:46:22 Pretty customized to figure out this balance of like economy, ecology, and community that goes into everything. Um.
09:46:32 How this is different. And then the bigger commercial industry for us is like they're doing even age rotations. Typically, this is not a blanket statement, but more typically
of 30 to 80 years. Where it is a crop of trees, they are growing it as a single crap, and then turning it over.
09:46:50 Um. So we're not trying to do that. We're not trying to compete with that. This is more of a different model of just taking out 20 to 30% of the volume at intervals.
09:47:00 Um.
09:47:01 County forest management is small, and not intended to displace other types of forest management. So.
09:47:08 Matt will.
09:47:07 Trying to drive that point home.
09:47:10 Ask a question on this Mallory.
09:47:11 Yeah.
09:47:17 Mm-hmm.
09:47:11 Um. So we say selectively, send. And you're talking again for that triple bottom line. So does that mean that there'll be some.
09:47:20 Larger. Would some trees taken down? Specific? I mean.
09:47:31 Yeah.
09:47:22 Are you? I guess I'm are you specifically looking for things that local mills I know you're gonna get to the 20 mills here soon, I mean, are you looking for things that can
be processed by.
09:47:44 Oh, yeah.
09:47:34 More local mills, smaller mills. What are the kind of other areas? And are you looking for big trees and small trees? For? I mean? It's forest health and economy. But can you
dive into that a little bit more? What that looks like at a medical parcel.
09:47:47 Absolutely. So. Yeah, I call it. This is.
09:47:51 I will try and not get too nerdy um. But the it's what I do is like stratified thinning.
09:47:56 Um so.
09:47:57 There will be all sorts of products. We're taking small trees, and we're taking big trees.
09:48:02 There's a concept of setting from below that.
09:48:06 Um is kind of popular that you're only taking theseory trees. I'm not trying to do that necessarily. Um.
09:48:14 Because I think we do want some larger diameter trees that are coming into big mills. We want to like retain bigger trees as well. So when I look at the forest after a harvest,
I want to see a mix of species. I want to see a mix of sizes, and I want to see a mix of ages.
09:48:29 So when I'm doing a harvest, I'm looking at like what I'm leaving behind.
09:48:35 So that I'm leaving that.
09:48:37 Um community so that they're each age class, each.
09:48:42 Species is represented.
09:48:43 Um, but trying to take a bit of that if it's appropriate. So I was just looking at um.
09:48:49 Well, I, city of court towns, and also hiring me, which is a whole other conversation to um try and align more with the county and um what we're doing, forest management wise.
And so I was looking at one of their um properties, and there is an area that has. Oh, I don't know. It was probably 1015 acres that has a lot of larger diameter trees like 20 inches
plus, and.
09:49:13 Um, because they are getting older. I was like, Oh, this is an area where, like us, custom, milk could come in.
09:49:19 And there's no problems with it. But I could see a scenario where we could go in and take, you know, a couple of trees, or like 5 trees, or something like that. Um where the
stand is going to be very healthy still, but some of those trees are naturally going to die over time, anyway, and that is something that would be a very nice custom project for a local
mill that is not going to harm anything otherwise. Um, so it's a case by case basis.
09:49:44 Typically, no, we're going to take the lower value trees. Um, and you know some saw logs to like make it as viable as possible. But it's it's a balance on each site. Does that
help answer the question?
09:49:59 Yes, thank you.
09:49:59 Okay.
09:50:00 And if you want like ah, another nerdy perspective. Um.
09:50:06 Promote like kind of a conservation science sort of way, like.
09:50:09 The.
09:50:10 The forests you mostly have, and this is obviously a generalization, are pretty homogeneous.
09:50:17 And the work.
09:50:20 But this is proposing, for the county is.
09:50:23 Adding diversity. And so that means.
09:50:27 You know.
09:50:28 Touch.
09:50:30 Group group selection, you know, whatever creates more structural stand, age, everything.
09:50:36 Diversity to make, you know.
09:50:38 Kind of biology. Diversity equals resilience.
09:50:42 Um.
09:50:43 That's.
09:50:44 Really what the goal is.
09:50:46 Is.
09:50:48 Community and forest resilience.
09:50:50 Thank you. Yeah, that. And like the property I was looking at for city of Port Townsend. Most of it was homogeneous.
09:50:57 Um! Most of it was even aged.
09:51:00 Uh, you know.
09:51:01 Even spacing, and had been, you know, managed for for timber um in a uniform manner, and so.
09:51:10 Yeah, what we are doing is coming in and making that.
09:51:13 Latin, for I'm trying to make mosaic for us, trying to.
09:51:16 Um reduce fire risk um, give trees space to grow, and you know fire used to come through, and we're not trying to encourage.
09:51:25 Fire at the scale necessarily, but coming in and and trying to um.
09:51:31 Copy. What some of those.
09:51:32 Disturbances would be.
09:51:35 Are you guys looking at natural regeneration? Mostly, I guess. How do you increase the diversity? If you know you need to add other local bry. Are you planting as well? Or what's
what's the.
09:51:45 We grow, plan.
09:51:47 If if needed, mostly natural region. Um, and most of these.
09:51:51 Properties.
09:51:53 If you look around, there is.
09:51:55 Uh! There is diversity, but it's just low, so like in my prescriptions for all the harvest we've done with the county um in my private clients like.
09:52:05 I specifically say, like, basically only take Doug, for we're not trying to take any other species, because every other species is pretty low in percentage. And we're trying
to amplify that. So.
09:52:16 Westernized theater. Um uh red alder uh.
09:52:21 Grand for um Western hemlock. All those species I'm like. Just leave them Madras, leave them, and like even with Madras, because Madras.
09:52:30 Um get shaded out pretty easily like.
09:52:32 I have loggers like typically like, been around them to give those crowns a bit more space.
09:52:39 Uh. So it is. It is high touch forestry in some ways, and it depends on the job. Um, but.
09:52:46 If there are species like the one over in a Cape George uh the Trailhead Park, even though that one was like mostly Dougas. There was bitter cherry. There was Western white
pine in there, so we were just like, don't touch any of those, because there's so few of those we want them to be able to grow and naturally regenerate and spread in there. So.
09:53:07 It's a long term process of allowing us to come back in, but we are. I'm also totally open. We've done some planting of western um western white pine, and some of the the stands
after harvest, too.
09:53:21 Thanks.
09:53:22 Mhm.
09:53:24 And also I am not sure I'm sorry. I'm not sure how long we actually have um, and I don't wanna take up too much time here.
09:53:32 Do you? Did he.
09:53:35 Okay.
09:53:31 I think we're looking to be done around 10 right for this item.
09:53:38 Okay, so we'll just fly through the rest. And if.
09:53:40 There's questions.
09:53:42 Um call amount but timber harvest. So our 5 year goal is.
09:53:46 To have.
09:53:47 Plan harvest for 200 acres per year, with an average uh per year average, with protocols and infrastructure to support them. Um, for this year. We're gonna do Elmira and hadlock
um harvest schedule schedules for fall and winter. We've been over this with the advisors. Um, there will be more information about this and um.
09:54:09 There's.
09:54:10 Yeah, I I'm now. I'm in like fast month. So I'm not sure how much you wanna go into this, because it's a bigger discussion, too. But there'll be more information on this.
09:54:18 Um.
09:54:19 Katrina. You want to chime in on anything with timber harvest.
09:54:32 Yeah.
09:54:26 It. We. This is definitely like the the super fast version um, and and there's in the documents you got so.
09:54:35 Um.
09:54:37 Yeah, that's.
09:54:37 It all supports that 5 year goal.
09:54:40 Go to that.
09:54:41 Yeah.
09:54:42 And.
09:54:47 Hey!
09:54:48 No.
09:54:43 Maybe this quick question, Mallory, and it's a Hi. Sorry I was late. Um, this is beginning of your nice to meet you.
09:54:50 Um.
09:54:52 The uh.
09:54:53 Tennessee, like where.
09:54:57 Where could folks get information? Looking at the um?
09:55:01 Various documents that were in our packet today. But like, if if the public wanted to see where we're talking about in terms of this this hardest? Where would they find that
information on where Amira and headlock.
09:55:13 Um blocks are.
09:55:15 There isn't. So we don't have a website or anything. This is part of the communication plan that we're working on with Katrina. One of the things right now is I just finished
um, a kind of.
09:55:28 Program for 2 sessions.
09:55:29 That is going to, I think. There, I already talked to Finn River about this, so I think one is going to be a finographer, and then I'm hoping the other will be at Shipping Park.
But they're going to be outreach events.
09:55:40 Um for the public to talk about the forestry program and these upcoming harvests to give public input. We're also gonna do um uh outreach in the newspaper, and then I think.
09:55:52 I can. Mark and I have talked about the the social media um component for for the county. So.
09:55:58 Uh getting word out there sooner. But if you have anything we're making.
09:56:03 Like protocols on how to do this. So.
09:56:06 If you have any input, um.
09:56:08 Want us to do this in a certain way. I'm all ears.
09:56:12 I think more information the better, earlier.
09:56:13 Hmm.
09:56:19 Um. And part of this is we're trying to.
09:56:22 I.
09:56:23 Come up with standards of practice and.
09:56:26 The because this is lived in my head. We want to for everything we're doing here. We want it to outlive.
09:56:32 Me and all of us here. Um, so we're trying to make standards that will be in place for the next person to carry on this program and for other counties. Because what's ha! What
you guys are investing in here is.
09:56:44 Very unique. There's only 2 other counties in Washington who have done this, and they have done it in very different ways. So.
09:56:50 As there's more attention towards this program, I want it to be replicable. And that has been a big driver. In like talking to Katrina about this is, how can we make this replicable?
How can we make this able to hand off and um standardize? So um, making sure the timber harvests our processes, how we inform the Public.
09:57:09 What our processes are through this whole um.
09:57:12 Harvest.
09:57:13 Each year going forward is standardized and the public knows is really important. So we're building that.
09:57:25 Um land acquisition.
09:57:28 So we're.
09:57:30 I I mentioned the painting we're doing uh the trespasser presentation on the 18.th If you all want to um watch that I will give information. Heidi has all that information to
us. She will be on the panel.
09:57:43 Um. But the 5 year goal is to acquire North Jacob Miller.
09:57:47 Cape George property, and one of the Tla properties.
09:57:52 This.
09:57:53 Is. So we're in the 5 year goals. We're um.
09:57:57 Just trying to.
09:58:01 Get. These seem like the most logical choices. These were no brainers. The Cape George and North Jacob Miller are pieces that Dnrl. Has already said that they are not as interested
in. It's harder for them to manage. Te lake is a property that I think is um very useful for the county to have as kind of a bank of more productive timberland. Um, that is still north
of.
09:58:24 1 0. 4. It's still less productive overall in the county, but it would be something that we can manage more for um revenues to help.
09:58:33 Offset some of the other more restoration kind of projects around the county.
09:58:38 And.
09:58:38 Um.
09:58:39 He's as 5 year goals as ambitious because, as we all know, it can take up to 20 years for a project on a Trustline Transfer list to actually.
09:58:49 Get the funding that it needs.
09:58:51 But we're allowing for 2 Biennia.
09:58:54 Yeah.
09:58:55 Or the transplant transfer list to do its magic. And we're hoping that we rank well coming out of the presentations.
09:59:02 Land acquisition is probably the highest wildcard one just because.
09:59:07 No one, no one really.
09:59:09 Has a clue.
09:59:11 Yeah.
09:59:11 How this process goes.
09:59:13 Yeah.
09:59:14 And there's different pathways. And so part of what we want to do with land acquisition is like, identify.
09:59:20 We've I've talked to Dan. I talked to different partners about this, but we don't have anything documented, and, as far as I can tell no counties have anything documented. So
this is another process that we want to have documented that can be.
09:59:32 Um tools for other entities to use modeled after Jefferson County is like this is how you can work.
09:59:39 With Deanna. This is how, if there are positions that, like Deanna doesn't necessarily want, or there are advantages for the county to take over. There are pathways in place
that we understand now how that works.
09:59:52 Um.
09:59:54 Because I have obviously been a lot of questions in the last couple of years about that.
09:59:59 Uh, financial.
10:00:01 Um, 5 year goal to create self sustaining forestry program with 20% timber sales in county.
10:00:08 This would be including saw logs and pulp um. So back to.
10:00:14 Um Jeff's question.
10:00:17 Of ah.
10:00:19 If.
10:00:21 Now Jeff. Sorry.
10:00:23 I was like, which Jeff's in the room.
10:00:25 Not yet. Um.
10:00:28 Trying to um.
10:00:30 Uh Greg's question about uh, what? What products will be coming off of the property? So we will be having um saw logs. We will be having higher value and lower value. Working
with the Jefferson timber collaborative. Um will be really useful. They've already been up and running. This has been kind of a slow bill, and uh so I have sold.
10:00:52 Um.
10:00:53 A number of.
10:00:54 Uh.
10:00:55 Loans of logs in the past year to to some of the local sales. So this is, it's slowly working, which is really great.
10:01:02 Um.
10:01:04 Let's see.
10:01:05 And they and they're ramping up as well. Right? We all. We all are familiar. The Jefferson Collective is.
10:01:11 Looking to get some bricks and mortar like a location and have more infrastructure, so that they're ramping up.
10:01:17 Mm-hmm.
10:01:19 Yeah, they are.
10:01:21 Uh Katrina, anything you want to chime in on here having the sawmill.
10:01:25 Um, no, although I did run some numbers, and I know that 60% of pulp sales already goes to Pete, or 60% of your pulp, your.
10:01:34 That harvest is pulp.
10:01:35 Which goes to Pt. Paper. So the pulp mostly stays within county already.
10:01:40 Um, but then also.
10:01:42 You know um, the scale that.
10:01:45 Jefferson County is working at can supply.
10:01:48 Like one to 5.
10:01:50 Small production mills versus.
10:01:52 It's like point 0 0 1% of any of your big.
10:01:57 Commercial mills.
10:01:58 Within trucking distance, and so.
10:02:00 The influence to the local economy for having within county sales is, it has a huge potential um to support local businesses.
10:02:09 Great.
10:02:10 So we probably have to move to wrapping up.
10:02:13 Yeah.
10:02:13 Outreach and communication. This is obviously a big one. We needed to talk more about with them.
10:02:19 Uh, making sure that the public knows what we're doing, getting more of that communication out there. Um, developing a website so that this isn't operating in a black box for
the public, because that is one of the big questions that um.
10:02:32 Um that we've gotten in the last couple of years.
10:02:35 So.
10:02:36 Katrina is working on that. She has a communication um kind of strategic plan already built that we've gone over with Heidi and Mark.
10:02:44 Um.
10:02:46 Any quick comments on that.
10:02:48 No, just that. You know. This is.
10:02:51 Thank you.
10:02:53 Just because it's towards the end of the.
10:02:55 The presentation does not mean it's the lead, like less of lesser importance. Um! It was very clear during the meeting with the Advisory Committee how how critical.
10:03:05 Um.
10:03:07 Adding, adding, really a robust way of communicating the goals is so.
10:03:13 And.
10:03:15 Partnership. So a 5 year goal of developing.
10:03:18 Working relationships.
10:03:21 Um with stakeholders in all parts of the supply chain similar to the land works collaborative, which Kate knows.
10:03:27 Very well to kind of support the program.
10:03:30 Um, we are a small county, we are. Uh gonna be, this is always gonna be a small.
10:03:36 And flexible kind of um program. So making sure that we have a good support network, and that everyone is.
10:03:43 Um kind of knows what we're doing, and we can work together more effectively on it is really important. So.
10:03:49 Continuing to just keep those partnerships going.
10:03:52 Katrina, anything you want to add.
10:03:56 Nope, there's a lot of opportunity for partnerships. So.
10:03:59 Yep.
10:03:59 Both exciting and overwhelming.
10:04:01 Yep.
10:04:02 Hmm.
10:04:04 Uh. By the end of the 5 Year Strategic plan, Jefferson County will have the data protocols.
10:04:08 And next steps in place to maintain a long term uh ecologically and socially responsible for management program appropriate to the scale for our community.
10:04:17 And.
10:04:17 That's it.
10:04:19 Um.
10:04:21 Yeah, we kind of flew through there at the end. I'm sorry I wasn't.
10:04:23 Clear on how much time we actually had for this. So.
10:04:27 Wing in a little bit, but um.
10:04:30 Katrina, anything you want to chime in, or anything commissioners, any other questions you all have.
10:04:36 Can I make a comment?
10:04:38 Um, I I really appreciate this and and the focus on outreach. I think that is something that's often neglected. So I think that's great 2 things that I didn't see that I'd love
to see, and.
10:04:48 One of them is maybe not super pertinent, but.
10:04:51 Um. I'm really excited about Senate substitutes. Say that Bill 61, 21, and flame caps for dealing with slash. I know that this forestry process doesn't have a lot of slash burning
or anything like that. But.
10:05:03 I would love to have.
10:05:04 As you develop this plan some sort of uh bmp, or Sop about um.
10:05:11 Considering, considering Bi basically for for waste material as a way to.
10:05:16 Um for ecological health and and reduction of fuels, and all all the things that can that it can. Uh.
10:05:23 Provide the other thing that I didn't see that is, I think, critical part of Tlt.
10:05:29 County taking over uh Dnr. Land is accessibility for recreational use. So I know that that's an expensive thing. But you know.
10:05:39 That usually means parking. I guess I'm not sure what else it means, but just.
10:05:42 Um, making.
10:05:44 Uh, I I would love to have consideration as we move this forward. For how does the public access, these areas that are essentially Park land. Really, I believe, at least.
10:05:54 The acquisition path that we're talking about most right now. So.
10:05:57 Those things, but I love what I see I'm seeing, and maybe.
10:06:02 i 1 final suggestion, the website as it is in Beta version, opening it up to.
10:06:07 You know, county staff, or you know, internally, as as you're developing it would, would help get more eyes on it. And uh.
10:06:14 That aren't so close, maybe the same benefit that Katrina is bringing to the project in general. So.
10:06:19 Yeah.
10:06:19 Just love, you know, getting access to that stuff.
10:06:21 Thank you very much.
10:06:23 Yeah, thank you. Uh. And I'll resend very quickly and say, bioterror, absolutely, there's some developments on that. Um. Dnr also has a program that I just met with them 2 weeks
ago, or I don't know how many weeks ago about that is accessible to the county. That's only a 1 page, and it's open to the public now. It's only one page application to do slash management
to do um. They even have prescribed burning.
10:06:48 Um, there's a whole bunch of really great cost share programs and reimbursement in there. That's.
10:06:52 I'm very excited about is accessible to the county and to the public. Now that we're going to be sharing more information about.
10:07:00 Um.
10:07:00 I already forgot the website. The website is going to be county owned. So it will be, I will be working with the county on building that.
10:07:08 I'm and Katrina will um.
10:07:10 And I can't remember. What did it comment? Oh.
10:07:12 Creation, apps.
10:07:13 Recreation. And yes.
10:07:14 Having been on the county parks and rock board for 6 years.
10:07:18 I am very aware, and um have talked a lot about this, and thought about how this is like the recreation will absolutely be an element in these, and I want people to be engaging
with these 4. Say.
10:07:31 Think the triple bottom line community forest kind of model is recreation and forest management, and all those things can coexist.
10:07:38 Um and.
10:07:41 You know, be a win for all parties, I think so. That's our goal. Absolutely.
10:07:48 Yes.
10:07:45 And that will take some management planning. And we've already talked public works about this and.
10:07:50 They're not wanting these to come under parks.
10:07:53 You know, initially. But we need to.
10:07:55 Do some management planning about um passive recreation in these forest lands until some point when we actually have more active recreation in them. And one of the parcels.
The Anderson Lake parcel is immediately south of Anderson Lake, State Park, and is.
10:08:14 The likely location of the extension of the Olympic Discovery trail. Um, and that was.
10:08:20 Specifically why we pursued that parcel because we knew that there would be a recreation opportunity. There.
10:08:26 Great.
10:08:27 Yeah.
10:08:28 Yeah, yeah, I think it's tricky to, you know.
10:08:32 You have to manage expectations around recreation, but it won't be the same level of service as our parks. But yeah, I'm so glad those conversations are happening and.
10:08:40 It is important to keep that it'd be great. There's some sort of.
10:08:45 Where, like we've seen another.
10:08:52 Yep.
10:08:46 Other parts where neighborhoods adopt and do some of the maintenance.
10:08:54 Right.
10:08:56 Katrina.
10:08:56 Thanks. You guys.
10:08:59 Any last comments. Katrina.
10:09:01 Uh, no, thank you for the feedback and um hopefully to meet all of you.
10:09:05 Virtually.
10:09:06 Great to see you both, and.
10:09:08 Look forward to seeing you out in the woods sometime.
10:09:11 Thank you all.
10:09:16 It's.
10:09:11 What's a timber dealer is a timber Doodle, like the the leavings of a tree. I don't know. I know what a goat Doodle is.
10:09:22 Hmm.
10:09:18 Uh, actually a bird. Um, so it's a different name for woodcock, which is.
10:09:22 Kind of one of our little ground nesting forest species, so.
10:09:27 Nice.
10:09:29 Yeah.
10:09:31 Alright nice to meet you guys. Thanks.
10:09:33 Alright. Thank you.
10:09:37 Okay, I'm I guess I'm still sharing. You're welcome to stick with it. So um, the next item on our agenda is briefing and potential action regarding establishment of a local
emergency Planning committee.
10:09:50 Oh Epc. And approval of bylaws and appointment of members.
10:09:54 And we have are joined by Bradley Brooks, our DEM. Yeah.
10:10:07 Yeah, that's just for all cameras. Our mic today. Okay, so this is, this is very straightforward. So federal government. Um.
10:10:17 You know, they they developed in past a long time ago, 1986, a Super Fund Amendments Authorization Act, which established this.
10:10:25 I mean, I use a lot of acronyms when the emergency planning community right to know at which you basically, this is all federal, state and local um aging home, I guess.
10:10:38 Governments have to have to form a community right to note, group around hazards, chemicals and developer response.
10:10:45 Um that flows down to the State, and they have a say, Emergency Response Commission.
10:10:51 Um.
10:10:52 And they basically say that each county in Washington State has to have this thing what we're gonna call it the local um emergency planning committee, which we call Lexi.
10:11:02 That's what we're trying to establish. And then, as far as the the authorization goes, it's the Washington Administration code. 1,800 tells us we have to establish this plan,
and they basically tell us that they define the groups that we have to have.
10:11:17 So elected official law enforcement via Ems.
10:11:22 Citizens, environmental groups, the media and public health, and also all the facilities.
10:11:28 That basically have hazardous weights. Um, what we did is we? We went out, and I. There's 24. The facilities that the State provided us for us that have to report on hazards,
chemicals. I asked all those groups to join us.
10:11:42 Um? I asked. Um all our people in our Imt, which is the emergency management team to join us and um, we did pretty good. We got about 10 members. You have all their applications
there in front of you. Um, you know. Fire the law enforcement. We got good response from.
10:12:00 Um citizen groups, and we'd like to drill it as well. And then we got the pulp and paper mill has got has joined us. Um uh Indian Island has joined us as well as um. I think
Taylor's shellfish farms.
10:12:15 So um, we're asking that you uh approve this resolution so we can get started. Um, having our 1st initial meeting, which it would be tomorrow, and that you can appoint these
members um to our committee so we can get going.
10:12:31 Questions.
10:12:32 I had a question.
10:12:33 Oh, sorry, Kate!
10:12:34 I do, too, but go ahead. Um! I was just kind of.
10:12:38 I've I've heard of Lep before, so it's kind of good to dig into it. And you talked about the requirement according to that whack, 100, 4,160, and I saw that there's a lot of.
10:12:48 Required groups that aren't on the membership. Is that okay? I mean, I talked to. So we have a um, the State provided as a liaison with it with them. And I asked him that. And
he says, Uh, typically you don't. When you're 1st starting out, you don't get all those groups. I mean, I think the one group that we'd like to have would be the media um. But.
10:13:09 We can't, you know. So uh, hopefully, you know all this.
10:13:14 You know, public what we're doing, having the meeting, you know. Publicizing, getting our management will grow a little bit and we'll get. We'll get more. Um, I'm not aware
of that many environmental groups, but it would be good to have those as well. You know it just it's just trying to to weed out all these people and get them involved. I think right.
We don't have to have them. We did it from what we, from what my feedback was, we have a good start for.
10:13:40 For the for the size of our community. Um, we have a good start, I mean, I guess. I wonder specifically the media I mean the Kpz or the leader. None of them are interested.
And yeah, set up and ask, and then it kind of.
10:13:59 I think that you've been aware of our committee and the hospital didn't have anyone they could bring into, and then elected local officials. I mean, we didn't get any.
10:14:14 To bear. I did have one other person, the Department of Transportation Department. They they submitted an application for 2 people, and I think that we had to have them each
submit an application. I asked them to resubmit, and hopefully that they will.
10:14:30 Um.
10:14:31 But we did. We did what we could, man, I don't think we got an invitation right, did we?
10:14:38 I sent out, so I I mean I.
10:14:45 And um. Our own emergency management doesn't have a seat.
10:14:48 Well what we we are. We are. We're coordinators.
10:14:51 So on the Lexi Coordinator, and I'm going to, you know, be running all the.
10:14:56 The the media and.
10:14:57 And also doing the minutes and things like that uh we do so from from um over there in uh the Indian Island. The the gentleman that is involved in that is the emergency manager
for Uh Indiana.
10:15:13 Um and.
10:15:15 You know, so that that's good to have them on there.
10:15:17 And I. We got the names. I don't think we got the applications.
10:15:20 Separate Email, Attachment.
10:15:29 Um that that excuse me. The interim uh chair. This is helping us right now in L has been on the lep in King county. And so um, we're really pleased that he's gonna help us out.
Get this started, maybe that he'll serve as the as the chair.
10:15:45 We're going to have to have elections.
10:15:48 Um hopefully um tomorrow and be able to select a chair. And then one of the most important things will be doing throughout the year is.
10:15:57 And probably into next year's developing the emergency Response plan.
10:16:01 That we'll have to review. That's then that's a requirement every year.
10:16:05 This committee will have to review that emergency response plan. We'll catch those candidates in our area.
10:16:12 And the lepsy is pretty limited in scope to hazardous chemicals. Is that right?
10:16:21 And uh, always facilities have certain levels like the gas stations.
10:16:26 Um, and and and and you know other people, the the the paper mills have certain levels that they have to report, and from what I understand from the fire department they have
been recording. But this is one thing that the that the county or the Lexi will do is to review those reports and make sure that everybody's recording, and let the public know.
10:16:46 Great.
10:16:48 Cool thanks.
10:16:49 Um.
10:16:50 And I was just curious kind of where in the um.
10:16:54 D em command structure is set. So if there were an emergency that included these hazardous materials, then this.
10:17:03 Plan would be implemented. And then, just thinking, you know, we have the instant command policy management group.
10:17:09 Where? Where does this? There's something called Esl.
10:17:14 10, which is part of our which is a emergency safety function that would go into effect.
10:17:21 Um, it's just like anything, any other incident that would happen. And then all the the fire department and law enforcement and every well, the would be activated, possibly
in that situation. And and basically, this is the planning group.
10:17:36 And that's an action group. Whenever we have something like that would happen. But one thing good about it we might. We would have some plan. If if something happened to like
that evacuation routes we would have. What a a toxic spill went! Where would that make possibly go? So we would have more information than the you see, could activate to to action.
10:17:59 A comment, I you I did get the invitation for me. I just didn't apply to it the end of February, and I I did I assume you sent it one out to Jeff Com as well. It seems like
as communication. Um.
10:18:11 I just sent everyone out to Jeff. Yeah, I think they'd be. You know, they're critical in that. Okay.
10:18:17 So is the I see in the exhibit A to the resolution. Um, there shall be 10 voting members. Is that a minimum, a maximum or.
10:18:27 I mean, we've suggested a whole bunch of other entities. It sounds like it could be 20 people. Okay.
10:18:38 Requested to be on the committee. We go through the process of having a patient who come to you, you would have to approve it, and then they would be off. The committee.
10:18:45 So maybe it should say.
10:18:47 There should be at least 10 voting members on this document.
10:18:51 Good bye.
10:18:52 I mean, what if there's less than 10.
10:18:55 Well, there are 10.
10:18:57 Proposed.
10:18:58 Members currently. And we've recommended about 10 more.
10:19:02 Yeah. I wonder if change in membership would would call for a change.
10:19:07 And the resolution, yeah, I wondered that too, like often a resolution will stay.
10:19:10 You know, members uh.
10:19:13 We all represent, you know, um, just instead of him to change a resolution every time a new member comes on, that we might. We might want to make it easier for ourselves in
the future to.
10:19:24 Yeah, provide more flexibility within the resolution. And I know you're on a tight timeline. But we might be able to do these edits.
10:19:30 Today and not interfere with your meeting tomorrow. You could just say there's.
10:19:37 And no more than.
10:19:39 2019, or whatever you wanna do. So anything in any language in the um state statute about numbers of they just give. They just list.
10:19:50 The typical members that you would have on the left.
10:19:53 So we could take, maybe take the language that language.
10:19:58 Well, this is but but then we're putting in members that aren't there? Well, but the flexibility of like, you know, minimum of 10 members maximum of 19.
10:20:09 Which may represent, and then cut and paste language from the statute. Um.
10:20:14 And other stakeholders as deemed uh.
10:20:18 Uh appropriate. Yeah.
10:20:21 I'm looking in the bylaw to see if it also needs to be amended.
10:20:24 I don't think so. Maybe you're sharing the bottom.
10:20:28 So good section, too, just be modified to say there shall be at least 10 voting members. Yeah, I think that.
10:20:35 That's what I was suggesting. Knowing the Resolution section 2 of the resolution, I don't think you have changed the bias.
10:20:44 So is there any problem? If if.
10:20:47 Member.
10:20:48 They're different.
10:20:49 Drops out, then.
10:20:51 I mean.
10:20:53 Well, we have committees that are frequently not at full string. You would have a vacancy. You would advertise for it. Um! We go to the same process. We would to, and it says
in your bylaws, 51, it's usually half.
10:21:08 Plus one so.
10:21:09 Yeah. Um, also the second pick the last page of the resolution. It's it outlines the members that you'll be um voting in today.
10:21:17 And it says 10 there. So maybe.
10:21:19 That's the initial change that to the.
10:21:24 Tim's initial 10. Yeah.
10:21:26 Although, do we even want to put the names in the.
10:21:29 Resolution? Or do we just want to say that 10 will be.
10:21:32 Appointed from a.
10:21:33 You know.
10:21:35 To include representatives of. Again, that's another good point, because we've tried to work, move away from resolutions where names are given and not titles or agencies. Um.
10:21:49 Does. Each level committee shall include at an at a minimum representation from each of the following groups or types of organizations.
10:21:57 As specified by section 3, 0. 1.
10:21:59 Friend and CC.
10:22:01 EPCR, a.
10:22:03 Um, and then it has.
10:22:05 The categories of folks which are largely on the list that you provided today. So it seems like including this language is a good idea, Commissioner.
10:22:14 And other.
10:22:16 You know, and other.
10:22:20 Organizations or other, maybe stakeholders, because then you have private sector, too, and other stakeholders. Yes.
10:22:28 Sorry notices to the media for your tomorrow's meeting.
10:22:31 I advise him to do so.
10:22:33 Understand that it might not happen if it's not approved. But do we have an editable version on the document where we can.
10:22:39 Yes, we do plunk this in.
10:22:41 And does anyone have.
10:22:42 Time at lunch to work on this I have a.
10:22:46 A Lunchtime Meeting.
10:22:47 Um.
10:22:49 We if we had everything I did, but I could do it while we're working.
10:22:53 Yeah. So okay, yeah. Carol, let me tell you the most.
10:22:55 Knowledgeable to get this in on.
10:22:57 Just make a few edits and still get it. Okay.
10:23:01 Uh, approved today. Okay, that would be very good.
10:23:04 We want the meeting happen tomorrow.
10:23:11 Yeah, no problems, with.
10:23:13 Any substance here just trying to make sure that's fine. And this has been a journey. Yeah.
10:23:21 Hmm.
10:23:23 Eric.
10:23:28 And I just emailed you the link to the whack.
10:23:32 Do you have it? And we're changing the bylaws as well.
10:23:35 Oh, I don't think we had any bylaw changes then. Uh.
10:23:43 I love zoom membership, and such.
10:23:45 Yeah membership just.
10:23:46 I didn't see any of that.
10:23:48 Point out, 10 members.
10:23:52 Nope.
10:23:54 One other question, I guess.
10:23:56 Often we have staggered.
10:23:59 Terms, because right now everyone's term ends at the same time. So it's alright. It just causes a problem. Because if there's, you know, people are in different roles, or they,
you know, you can have a real.
10:24:15 Where was I to improve the last? I'm not sure where it's where we're gonna be. The Wack is already included in the resolution. I think that was just for your reference to pull
the language of the the organization, the types of organizations to be represented. And that's for the last page, or we put that in the last page.
10:24:31 Or adding it in section 2 as well.
10:24:34 Last page says, Exhibit A, and it comes by the membership.
10:24:38 Well, instead of list lays out, you should be members.
10:24:42 We said we didn't want the specific names of folks in the exhibit, right? So we want the list.
10:24:48 From the whack.
10:24:49 I mean to be included, included by reference in the resolution.
10:24:53 Right. But we just want that list swapped in for the list of specific people right? Not just eliminate. Exhibit a.
10:25:00 Yeah, I was thinking that, too. I don't think we, but that's a lot cleaner.
10:25:04 But I do. We could ah put in, I think, like, Mark was saying in Section 2 or 3 that.
10:25:12 Who uh organizations that may be represented. But we do need to appoint this list of people.
10:25:22 So so one other point that the committee has. Just I think it was Friday. I just publish this to the committee. The bylaws. They haven't seen the bylaws yet.
10:25:33 And one of the things that they typically would do would be review and vote on the bylaws. If we had a change on the bylaws, we would have to bring those.
10:25:41 Easier, as well.
10:25:43 I mean the whereas whereas uh.
10:25:49 Second, last, not 3rd way.
10:25:51 160 defines the groups and organizations required for lepsy membership. So I mean, it is.
10:25:56 But yeah, today, you do need to appoint the members. Um, you could do that in separate motion, but you could just keep it in, and I can just change the verbiage to say.
10:26:05 There should be initial 10 voting members.
10:26:08 And does outline that they have 2 years. Just a slate.
10:26:11 Yeah.
10:26:16 Dark and dry, and drop us into the.
10:26:19 That box.
10:26:29 You wanna work on that Caroline while we yeah.
10:26:31 We can.
10:26:32 Come back to it.
10:26:36 Okay.
10:26:36 So you wanna.
10:26:39 The doctor approve the.
10:26:41 The membership.
10:26:42 Before we've created the committee. Why don't we just take action on all of this this afternoon or after lunch? I can work on this while you guys are meeting and then bring
it back so you can share your screen. So after our next.
10:27:05 Cool. Yeah, it'll be fine.
10:27:09 So it looks like. The next item on our agenda is an update regarding Jefferson County Historical Society and Museum of Art in History.
10:27:17 With Tara, Macaulay, and.
10:27:19 And Commissioner Brothers, and I'm you know.
10:27:22 Kind kind of here, really, it's their show. But uh.
10:27:29 Welcome, Tara!
10:27:33 Nick.
10:27:34 Thank you.
10:27:34 Yeah, thanks for being with us today.
10:27:37 Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. Can you all hear me? Okay.
10:27:40 We can hear you. Great. I don't know if you've met everybody on the mission but um! Our.
10:27:47 Executive director of Jefferson County Historical Society, and here to share with us some of the the new directions of Uh, the Jefferson County Historical Society, and talk
a little bit about your capital plan, I think, and.
10:28:00 Kind of uh forecasting the future. So.
10:28:03 Um.
10:28:04 Yeah, we are in the midst of a lot of exciting changes, and just wanted to take a quick opportunity. Um, really appreciate your time this morning to share with um you all commissioners
about um about our project. So I have a little presentation. Am I able to share my screen? I think so.
10:28:22 You're able to.
10:28:24 Erin. I'll just add that I was just out at the research center.
10:28:27 2 weeks ago, with.
10:28:29 Um, one of our Dcd Department of Community Development Staff and.
10:28:34 Digging into some of the history of the port headlock Uga area, and.
10:28:42 Yay!
10:28:45 Yeah, yeah.
10:28:39 I. That's the most fun I've had, so far as a commissioner. Yeah, officially, the most fun, the most fun place in the county.
10:28:48 Yeah. Oh, that's gonna be our new tagline. Thank you. Officially. The most fun place in the county.
10:28:55 Um.
10:28:54 It was like I had this graphs of history, and I would mention them to Ellie and um.
10:29:01 Who was the gentleman that was.
10:29:03 Aye.
10:29:03 Read.
10:29:04 May vary.
10:29:05 You know.
10:29:04 Please. Yeah, Ellie and Reid and I was hoping there's there was the this family, and I live in the old Mathison house, and then they would just like.
10:29:11 Pandora's box would open, and there would be all this magic information. And it was just really inspiring.
10:29:25 Face.
10:29:19 Yeah. Oh, I'm so glad. Thank you. That's a perfect um. It's a perfect tup for what we're working on uh is around accessible history and around um.
10:29:29 Shared stories and sort of um, making sure that everyone in the county really.
10:29:34 Um feels that our organization is a really valuable resource. Right? So um.
10:29:40 Yeah. So my name is Tara. I'm the executive director of the Jefferson County Historical Society. We're in the midst of this sort of reimagining of our museum experience.
10:29:50 Just a little bit about um who who we are. Um! We were founded in 1879. We believe we are certainly at least one of the most, the oldest historical societies in the State.
10:30:01 Um, we're in a very friendly competition with um the Western Pioneer Association. Um for that that singular title. But we've been around for a long time. 10 years before statehood,
we have about 500,000 objects in our collection. So a really quite large collection. Um, and we've had, of course, many iterations since our founding. Today we operate 3 sites in East
Jefferson County.
10:30:25 Um. We operate the Rath House Historic House Museum in Port Townsend, in partnership with Washington, State Parks.
10:30:31 We operate the research center which um heidi, you were just referencing. Um is where most of our collection is housed.
10:30:38 Um. It's a site that we share with the Jefferson County Genealogical Society as well. Um, and it's open to the public. Folks can come and um access our collection and do research.
10:30:50 And then um! What we sort of consider our flagship site is the museum of our in history uh, which is located in downtown Port Townsend in historic City Hall, Um. And functions
as a museum um, open to the public as well.
10:31:04 And our mission is um about bringing people together. So our mission is that through collections, through research, through exhibits, through programs, we bring people together
to share and learn and be inspired through Jefferson County Arts and heritage. And I think just 2 things we always really like to highlight around this mission um, is that we're about
people. You know, we have these sites. We have these objects. We hold them in public trust.
10:31:28 Um in the service of our community, in the service of people and bringing people together. Um, and that we are a countywide organization. So. Um. I mentioned that our sites
are located in East Jefferson County, but our collection and our interpretation represents.
10:31:42 Um.
10:31:43 Uh, you know the entirety of the county as well as beyond the county lines. Right? We're um. It's not like.
10:31:49 We would not share a story that took place just right in Clown. Um, certainly. We think of the Olympic Peninsula.
10:31:56 Holistically in that way.
10:31:59 And, as I mentioned, we're completely reimagining the experience. Um at the museum. We're thinking about both.
10:32:06 A new visitor experience, as well as sort of how we approach the practice of collecting and interpreting. Um our shared our shared histories.
10:32:16 And so just a little bit about how we got here. Um! This has actually been quite a long time in the making, and I don't. I won't walk you through the entire sort of back story.
But it started with a strategic planning process in August of 2021, where we really identified that our history exhibits at the Museum had not been significantly um!
10:32:36 Uh renovated. In a very, very long time we sort of started with what would it look like to to redo? Our history exhibits.
10:32:44 We worked with an interpretive planner. We did a lot of community surveying.
10:32:49 That led us into putting together a community Advisory Council, and that Council was a 19 person council that represented all kinds of different stakeholders, as well as all
kinds of different um geographic areas throughout the county.
10:33:02 Uh we started thinking about. Of course, you know, how are we gonna pay for this big project? We kicked off our capital campaign. Um la! All last year we worked with our design
firm, which is Aldrich Pairs associates. They're based in Vancouver, BC. And then this year we're really working on finalizing the design, wrapping up our capital campaign and starting
some of the some of the construction.
10:33:24 So it's a long roadmap to kind of get us to this place where we.
10:33:29 Are are really feeling like. Uh, we have a ton of momentum behind us, right.
10:33:33 And so what are we doing? Um, what is this project? We are completely reimagining. As I mentioned, our space and our practice, and the visitor experience. And we have this really
exciting new concept around how we're going to approach exhibits. Um, every year. We are going to think about our museum space as one large exhibition space, and every year we're going
to.
10:33:57 Um focus all of our exhibits around one main theme or topic. So the history exhibits, the community exhibits the art exhibits will all be thematically tied, and the 1st year
are sort of opening. Theme is home.
10:34:12 So thinking about home, how it connects us. Um, you know what it means to us as a community, and all the different ways we might interpret or think about that concept.
10:34:23 And so just to give you a sense of sort of ha! How this might take shape, and this would take shape with E every topic year over year, so every topic whatever.
10:34:31 You know, is really at the top of mind for our community, whatever feels the most salient, you know. We'll we'll work with the community to come up with the topic. So maybe
it's work. One year, maybe it's play. Maybe it's food right? And then every year we would approach the sort of visitor experience thematically in this way. So you would come into the
lobby. We would ask.
10:34:51 How do we, as the community, define this topic? How do we define home? What does that mean? What does it mean to us?
10:34:57 You would walk into what is called the Ferguson Gallery and the historic courtroom space, and that's where we would be working with artists or curators, or um.
10:35:06 Uh, you know, in in groups of installation artists, or some, you know, some kind of art expression around this theme or art that explores this theme in some way.
10:35:15 You would come into the historic Fire Hall, and that's where we would look at. What is the history of home in this community? How do you know what is the history of this topic?
This is where we can bring out collection objects, archive objects really dive, do some deep dives into the history of the topic.
10:35:30 You would move downstairs. Um, this is where we could look at the topic in our community today. So sort of how is home showing up in our community today. What are people thinking
about around this topic?
10:35:42 In the historic jail. We wanna take the opportunity to always ask the question, how has the the topic sort of shown up in law or criminalization throughout time.
10:35:52 Um. So home and the law. And then, as you sort of exit, the museum.
10:35:57 What does? What's the future of this topic, you know? How do we? How are we thinking about the future of this topic? And that could be everything from um. Another art installation,
you know, working with community partners that could be something like engaging a class of um 3rd graders. Right? What's the topic of you know? What's the future of this topic? Um,
in your mind, and sort of turning that space over to a youth, exhibit so lots of opportunities. There.
10:36:21 And so, since since every.
10:36:24 Part of the museum will be changing. What our design team is is creating for us is not.
10:36:30 Um.
10:36:31 Exhibitory necessarily. But this really um sturdy infrastructure that we can change year over year. So the case work that you see in the back. The projector mounted to the ceiling,
that the trains you know the um.
10:36:46 The activity stations. Those things would stay every year, and then what's in them is what we will change out. So the media changes, the objects change the interact. You know,
the interactive changes.
10:37:00 Um, and another big part of this project is uh is accessibility. So we are in a historic building. The historic building is not um, currently Ada, completely, Ada accessible.
And uh, we're gonna change that. So we're installing 2 ramps.
10:37:15 Um one connecting the courtroom to the fire hall and one uh, connecting the elevator entrance into the basement, into the the downstairs. We're widening some doorways. Um! We're
doing all new signage.
10:37:28 And then I always say no permanent exhibits. But that's not entirely true. We are doing one element of permanent exhibitory in the building. Um about the building itself. So
that building is such a um.
10:37:43 Strong presence in the museum experience. And so in every room we'll have a plaque, a graphic panel. Um, that describes what the room was used for sort of how the room is tied
to the larger building, and how that building.
10:37:57 Sort of is placed in time in the larger downtown. Port Townsend. Um.
10:38:02 Story.
10:38:06 And why now? Um, you know, we very much feel like it's it's time for change. Why not now? Um. I mentioned that our history exhibits have not been significantly refreshed in
decades. And we wanna share new objects and new stories and new understandings. And we're focused on sort of 3 main priorities.
10:38:24 Um. The 1st is around inclusivity.
10:38:27 We know that history is complex. We know that history is inclusive of multiple perspectives and experiences, and that it's not a singular story.
10:38:35 And this new concept relies on community participation and community input to provide um, a much more rich and inclusive and truthful experience for visitors.
10:38:47 Um, we really wanna prioritize responsible representation. We wanna highlight historically, under represented voices.
10:38:55 Um, we wanna lean into intricacies and complexities of the past. And we really want to um highlight that county wide. So really making sure that we're sharing a lot of um perspectives.
10:39:08 So inclusivity, a huge priority accessibility, a huge priority. I talked about already how? Um! Making sure that our spaces are physically accessible, for everyone is a huge
priority. But we're also really committed to developing exhibits that cater to different learning styles different ages. Um, making sure that there's lots of points of entry for engagement
in the new concept.
10:39:29 And then relevance, you know, being able to change and focus our topics every year to things that are relevant to our community in real time and forming new partnerships and
doing new research and connecting with new people. Um, feels uh, very, very meaningful about this concept.
10:39:49 As we went through this reimagining process we kept coming up against um.
10:39:55 You know, maybe at 1st what we thought of as challenges. But now, what we're very much thinking about as ex uh opportunities that this concept allows us to address. And the
first, st of course, is sustainability. Um, we want to exist for another 150 years. Um, and then some. And uh wanna build our visitorship. Wanna make sure that we have um really diversified.
10:40:18 Funding sources, and wanna make sure that we're working to the capacity of.
10:40:23 Of our organization.
10:40:24 We also wanna make sure that we can um be agile and responsive, that we can tell more stories. Um.
10:40:31 Um year over year, and that we're absolutely rooted in community, so that so much of this.
10:40:39 Concept is about partnership. It's about um.
10:40:44 Real time collecting, you know. It's about um being able to share.
10:40:50 Objects that might not otherwise be able to be on display for long periods of time, because they might be.
10:40:55 You know, sensitive to light or heat. Um, but really again, connecting our research center um, and our vast collection. Um with the museum in a more um sort of ongoing way,
right? Bringing out new things year over year.
10:41:15 And so again.
10:41:16 Thinking about.
10:41:17 Us.
10:41:19 Thinking about our organization as a countywide organization. Um, we've also been thinking about how this concept will move outside of the museum walls.
10:41:28 Um, and that will be through programs and partnership. And so lots of opportunities to work with other organizations throughout the county. Around this topic. One thing we um.
10:41:39 Piloted this year was working with the Jefferson Um County Library system and doing some in school programming with them and Kilson and Chemica um. And so, you know, if we have
this concept of home, we develop these in school programs. We're working with the library. We're doing library programs. We're getting out into the schools.
10:41:59 Um on our Advisory Council, where folks from the Cool Scene Historical Society folks from um the North Olympic History Center. So how can we partner with other museums.
10:42:10 Around these sort of topical ideas and work programmatically. And that's an open ended question that I wanna leave on the table. Um, today is sort of.
10:42:20 How does it feel like this topic? How does it feel like this concept can be really meaningful and really useful both at the Museum, but also throughout the broader county.
10:42:31 We're in the midst of our capital campaign. It's a 2.3 million dollar goal. We just hit the 1 million dollar mark about 3 weeks ago, which was so exciting. Um.
10:42:42 And uh. So we're, you know, just about halfway there and um, and have a lot of really good momentum, and are feeling really good about where we're at. There. Um, our capital
campaign is called rooted and change. And there's lots of information on our website. Um, about how folks can get involved if that's of interest.
10:43:00 In terms of the timeline and the path ahead. Um, we are starting building modification this year, so this fall will be um.
10:43:09 Doing all of the um.
10:43:11 Uh installation of the ramps.
10:43:14 In fall of next year is when we'll start uh fabrication and installation of all the new exhibitory and exhibit infrastructure, and our current timeline is to open late next
year. Um! With this newly imagined space.
10:43:28 Home home for the holidays is what we're working towards.
10:43:31 Mm-hmm.
10:43:32 Um, and lots of big community celebrations planned for that.
10:43:38 And that's.
10:43:39 What I wanted to share today. Um, how to get a hold of us. So again, I'm terribly um. Alex. Teams is our Director of development and communication. You can see um, her email.
There.
10:43:49 Tons of information on our website. Um.
10:43:53 We're sending out, you know, monthly E news about this project, and uh happy to answer.
10:43:58 Any questions. I can stop sharing my screen.
10:44:04 Super exciting. Tara.
10:44:06 Yeah.
10:44:08 Can't wait. I mean, I I lived here most of my life. Uh, and the exhibits haven't changed much of my life. So yeah.
10:44:17 Yep.
10:44:20 It's time.
10:44:17 And I like that.
10:44:22 I like the concept of.
10:44:25 Having some infrastructure that's permanent, but being able to really.
10:44:28 Showcase your collections. That's a great idea.
10:44:32 Every year, and just have something fresh and new to see, you know, to to bring people back every year.
10:44:37 Yeah.
10:44:38 I. I was curious just about that yearly cadence. And how how you guys.
10:44:43 Fell upon that. I think it's great I love. I love the the new idea.
10:44:46 Curious about that cadence.
10:44:48 Yeah, it's ambitious. Um, but we did in our community surveys, you know. We asked people sort of what brings you back to a museum. How often would you visit a museum? Um, and
how you know to your point, Heidi, if you've lived here for some time, how often have you visited and what's brought you in uh? And then thinking about our staff, we're a pretty small
team. We've got 5 full time staff and 4 part time staff.
10:45:13 And about 3,500 square feet of exhibit space. So it was kind of an equation of taking all of that. In. How often do folks.
10:45:20 W. Would be folks be motivated to come back.
10:45:22 How does that tie into a workflow that would make sense for the size of our team and the size of our space?
10:45:28 Um.
10:45:29 And.
10:45:30 And then and then ha! What would give us enough time to be responsive.
10:45:36 Um, but not too much time that things would start to feel.
10:45:41 Outdated.
10:45:43 Are are you trying to change? I guess the makeup of your.
10:45:47 Customers or guests for lack of a better word. I mean I and do you know how much what the ratio of tourists? And I think we've talked about opportunistic tourists as well as
planned tourists.
10:45:56 And locals is right now. And is that something you're trying to change.
10:45:59 Hmm.
10:46:01 Yeah, yeah, we're absolutely trying to um, and not that we're trying to.
10:46:06 Lessen our tourist visitation. But we are absolutely trying to increase our um local visitation. Um, so right now, we're about 70 tourists, 30 local in terms of drop in visitors
to the museum programs. Of course much different. You know very much.
10:46:25 Um.
10:46:25 Almost entirely. Folks who live, you know, on the Peninsula and or in the county um, but in terms of drop in visitation to the Museum. We we are very heavily weighted in tourist
visitation, and are looking very much to build up that that local visitation.
10:46:41 We did some.
10:46:42 Surveying of um tourists last year, and sort of tried to get a good sense of what the tourist population is interested in seeing, and of course they want something authentically
local, you know, they want to see something that is like, truly.
10:46:56 Truly represents the local community and gives them a really good sense of.
10:47:00 What this, what this place is, and and what it means to live here. And so um.
10:47:04 It feels like by leaning into this.
10:47:07 Incredibly community based sort of localized, concept.
10:47:11 That that tourist.
10:47:13 Visitation will also grow and be satisfied, you know, with with that experience.
10:47:19 Great thanks.
10:47:20 I just got a couple of comments. Um! Really nice to meet you, Clara. Thanks for being here. Um!
10:47:25 Yeah. Nice to meet you, Commissioner Dean.
10:47:27 Um. So I've I've been serving on the Um Maritime National Heritage Area Board for a number of years. Now it's my probably 1st time I did my toe and.
10:47:37 Kind of history and heritage work, and I've learned a ton.
10:47:39 Or any of this button.
10:47:42 And that also happened to be ramping up.
10:47:46 Um.
10:47:46 In the summer of 2020, when you know there was a kind of massive shift in how we think about kind of our own history, and how we talk about and interpret. Um our history. And
so I I just had a enormous learning um opportunity there, and um most recently served on the committee to select projects for the Um Grants funding that's available.
10:48:12 Small grants, and I believe you you were awarded one or 2.
10:48:17 That was.
10:48:15 We were. Yes, we're so grateful to be a recipient of that funding this year.
10:48:20 Yeah, um, so. And and I could. Really, it was the 1st time I had to think about like, how is it that we most effectively reach people like so many people were applying for uh
funding for signage. And it's like I just couldn't get as excited about signage. I know it's important way finding, you know, it's important. But, like, you know, I I was really interested
in experiential.
10:48:42 Things, and yet, you know, you can turn money at that, and it has no lasting power. So anyway, I I'm.
10:48:46 Just just new to kind of thinking in the way that you clearly are doing um professionally and on a long term basis for historic society. So thank you. And um, I've enjoyed learning
about it, and.
10:49:00 Hope to be more engaged in the future. Um!
10:49:04 I will say I was a little a little worried when I saw your the.
10:49:07 Logo. I don't know how permanent it is for the home exhibit which starred Townsend in particular, and you know, just even though that's my district here in the county. I'm always
hyper aware of how we um.
10:49:21 It's easy to default support Townsends when we think about um heritage in particular. So we have that.
10:49:28 The the Victorian seaports. Um.
10:49:32 Uh reputation. But you know again, just, I've learned so much about kind of how we how we think about heritage differently, and so just encourage you to continue that.
10:49:42 Emphasis on countywide um.
10:49:45 Stories.
10:49:56 Okay. Great.
10:49:46 100. Yeah, that um, just to clarify will not be a logo, for that exhibit is just meant to show uh a playful way to show where the museum is located. Uh, completely agree with
you.
10:49:59 Thank you.
10:49:59 Mm-hmm.
10:50:02 Cool. Thank you. So, Sarah, for joining us today. Is there anything else you want to share at this time.
10:50:08 Thank you so much for your time.
10:50:11 Really appreciate your time, Tara.
10:50:13 Can't wait for the new exhibit. Yeah. Exciting.
10:50:16 Yes, stay tuned.
10:50:18 Yeah. The hotel next. Right. Sleep no more.
10:50:22 Oh, lovely! No more.
10:50:24 Thank you all.
10:50:25 Right, thanks.
10:50:28 Okay. And that idea of themes that like anybody can relate to. Yeah, like, Victorian, Singapore doesn't do much for me. Home and home here. Yeah, I love the idea of changing
at a cadence, because it is.
10:50:43 Um once it once you've seen it once it feels a little bit like, do I need to go back so that'll be like every year we'll have to go back.
10:50:52 Flexible infrastructure, and you know, screens and everything that can can be shifted to different uh uh.
10:50:59 Exhibitions. But I think it's gonna be.
10:51:01 People. They know how to do it, though. Yeah. And then, have you been to the new space Maritime Center, partially funded by the Heritage National Heritage area?
10:51:18 Yeah.
10:51:19 Okay. So our next agenda item is a time to item 11. So we have.
10:51:23 A few minutes. Does anyone need a little break?
10:51:27 Or did I look at the resolution.
10:51:28 Or do we? Wanna yeah, we have it ready for us. Well, I just had few minor edits. I didn't change section to that crazy. Because uh, do you want to show us? Yeah, I'm not trying
to. I will try.
10:51:43 Mean. It seems like the owl camera is working as audio today. I mean, that would make it a lot easier if ditch AV capture. The only reason I would love to. But AI. I bet it
does with the AI notes.
10:52:01 You can do it for a Zoom Meeting, but not Zoom Webinar. We have more control with Zoom Webinar.
10:52:08 Um.
10:52:09 Okay.
10:52:10 So.
10:52:11 Section. So they're aware as right here.
10:52:14 That defines the groups of organizations required for Lep. So in Section 2.
10:52:18 The only thing that I change is there shall be a minimum of 10.
10:52:22 Boarding members.
10:52:23 And then down below um.
10:52:26 Membership.
10:52:27 There should be an initial 10 voting members. Those are the only changes I made so far.
10:52:33 Do you see other changes to be made.
10:52:35 Well, I think there was an interest in in.
10:52:38 Not listing the specific members doing that in a separate motion. So so, yes, and so I thought about that. And um.
10:52:47 That is accurate, but it does say the initial 10 members. It does say these are the only 10 that can ever be.
10:52:53 Um, we can pull it out of there, but we would also have to amend them. The um.
10:52:57 Resolution, where it says, exhibit a.
10:53:00 Um.
10:53:02 When we take that part out.
10:53:05 But definitely need to appoint them by name, because.
10:53:08 That isn't something that you normally would do.
10:53:10 Right.
10:53:11 Cause. I think that there's interest in removing those. But and then putting in that section too.
10:53:17 The language from the statute which listed the.
10:53:21 Types of organizations that should be represented. So the whereas.
10:53:26 Are you not changing the resolution, or in your motion?
10:53:28 Uh the resolution.
10:53:30 So.
10:53:31 The whack is the. There is awareness. It talks about the whack. I can expand it in a food. All of that. I think that's what we were talking about earlier. Yeah, I think just
for for ease and but not not limited to it. Just.
10:53:46 So easier to find a whack or to find a resolution. Um!
10:53:50 I know for us like when I go, you know, if I'm like.
10:53:54 Yeah, every few years, only 3 till days, we have to go. Look for the resolution to see. How do we appoint? What are the rules. Yeah, like, I think.
10:54:02 Putting some information in, then just plain language is.
10:54:06 Helpful.
10:54:07 Um, and so it's the the whack is.
10:54:10 Um.
10:54:11 Quite lengthy and well, not really, but one through 4, with.
10:54:17 I can include all of that if you'd like.
10:54:18 Just a list of um, of.
10:54:22 Entities, entities, and then with another like and other stakeholders as.
10:54:27 Um.
10:54:29 As appropriate.
10:54:31 Right.
10:54:32 Um! I can do that. It's only um.
10:54:35 And I think it should.
10:54:37 Is it? Is it required for membership, or may include.
10:54:42 I would. I think it was Mario.
10:54:45 But then um.
10:54:47 Our guest, said, Bradley said. That's.
10:54:50 He was. He was told that.
10:54:53 By state. DM. To not.
10:54:55 You know.
10:54:56 It says, each local committee shall include at a minimum representation from each of the following groups or types of organizations as specified.
10:55:05 So it's kind of.
10:55:07 Either, or cut and paste that language, should I say, instead of states.
10:55:12 But each local committee.
10:55:15 Shall include. I would just copy and paste that language from that whack.
10:55:20 Yeah. And then I have another and other stakeholders.
10:55:28 Yeah. Just say through. L, there.
10:55:30 Okay.
10:55:33 So sorry I was typing while you were talking. Do I? Do you want to um.
10:55:39 And put other stakeholders, or just the whole list. Add other stakeholders after.
10:55:45 You see the list there.
10:55:47 A through l. 1.
10:55:51 Yeah.
10:55:54 And are stable. Okay?
10:55:58 I'm like Melissa through L, which I'll do here in a second. But.
10:56:02 And then.
10:56:03 And other stakeholders.
10:56:05 Mm-hmm.
10:56:09 And.
10:56:11 So I'm and I'm working on this right now.
10:56:14 But if you want to do a break or.
10:56:18 Or something. Commission? Yeah, we can, we can. Why don't we break for.
10:56:24 4Â min.
10:56:25 Come back, do our hearing on short uh short term rentals, and then we can, as our last.
10:56:31 Our last action of the day finalized this. How does that sound good.
10:56:35 Okay.
11:01:17 Mm.
11:01:29 Oh, right calling us back into order!
11:01:33 And we have a hearing.
11:01:37 On, the.
11:01:39 More terrain on short term, rentals.
11:01:41 Um. I need to pull up there.
11:01:47 Okay, so.
11:01:51 Been a long time since I've done the hearing, so I might need assistance with this. But.
11:01:55 Um.
11:01:56 This hearing is um being held to provide the public an opportunity.
11:02:01 To provide testimony on.
11:02:03 Uh ordinance 0 3, 0 6, 1 0.
11:02:08 Dash 24.
11:02:10 Which is our um.
11:02:15 Ordinance related to development regulations for short term rentals declaring an emergency and establishing a moratorium on acceptance and processing of applications for hospitality.
Establishment permits for transient residences or transient guest houses.
11:02:31 Per Jefferson county Code.
11:02:33 Parentheses, Jccc.
11:02:35 1 8 dot 2 0 dot 2, 10 parentheses. 3. This is ordinance number 0, 3, dash 0, 6, 1, 0, dash 24.
11:02:46 And um. I'm gonna turn it over to.
11:02:50 Our director of community development. Josh Peters, to tee up this hearing.
11:02:56 Good morning, Commissioners!
11:02:59 This is a public hearing to follow up on an emergency control that the Board adopted on June 10th of this year to establish.
11:03:08 Or essentially reestablished, because it was the second time we did so this year.
11:03:13 Reestablish a moratorium on.
11:03:16 People making application for land use, approval for short-term rentals are those.
11:03:21 Rentals commonly referred to as vacation rentals fewer than 30 days.
11:03:25 And so the moratorium is for.
11:03:29 Uh! It was for one year. The 1st time it was adopted.
11:03:31 Um! And then the we had to do it again.
11:03:36 On June 10.th
11:03:37 And uh we we kept the same one year.
11:03:40 Uh timeframe. I'm trying to look right now, and.
11:03:44 To see when exactly that is I don't recall. I think it was sometime early.
11:03:47 Uh in May or April of next year. However, as we've said all along, our intention is to is to propose a regulations to go through the planning commission process.
11:03:58 And then bring it to the board before the end of this year as soon as possible. Really, and I can give you a very brief update on the substance of the matter before we get to
the hearing on the moratorium itself.
11:04:09 So the packet that you have includes a staff report that was prepared by Dcd. Staff butler.
11:04:15 To the planning commission, summarizing essentially the results of a series of conversations that have occurred at the planning Commission level on short term rentals.
11:04:24 The planning commission discussed the content of that report at their meeting last week on July 3.rd
11:04:31 And um are just this close to producing, uh, essentially a proposal that will be converted into an ordinance.
11:04:41 That proposes to change our development code. So uh, Mr. Butler is going to.
11:04:47 Summarize that one more time for the planning commission and present to them at the next meeting. That's July 17, th the 3rd Wednesday of the month per normal meeting schedule
of the Planning Commission.
11:04:57 And so if you're interested in that, of course we can alert you to the availability of the planning commission packet which is available to the public in our laser.
11:05:06 And so Brent is going to summarize the conversation so far and make sure that he's reflecting accurately what the planning commission has.
11:05:15 Suggested as what they would like to propose for amendments to our development.
11:05:20 And then pursuant to the ordinance on ordinances, we will provide that to the prosecuting attorney's office for legal risk analysis, and then schedule a hearing before the planning
commission, I would estimate.
11:05:31 That to be at this point.
11:05:33 Late August or early September.
11:05:35 Um perhaps sooner if we can, and we could move quicker.
11:05:38 And then, of course, once the plan holds a public hearing, and and.
11:05:42 Uh makes their final recommendation. That'll come before the Board hopefully early this fall for your decision, whether you want to hold a public caring or accept a planning
commission.
11:05:51 And thereby we would establish our.
11:05:53 Updated regulations on short term rentals. So that's the substance of the matter.
11:05:58 This particular hearing is again a follow up per statute.
11:06:03 For the moratorium that the Board established on June 10, th and it's a chance for the public to weigh in on that decision.
11:06:10 Now, if I've missed anything uh Philip from prosecuting attorney's office, please let me know otherwise. I think I've summarized where we're at right now.
11:06:19 Uh great Show.
11:06:22 Are there any questions for Josh before we open the hearing.
11:06:28 I guess I'd just be curious if you're getting any um.
11:06:32 Uh.
11:06:33 Feedback from the public. You know, folks who are being held up by this, or you know, what's the what's the.
11:06:41 Uh response you've you've received so far.
11:06:44 Yes, thank you for the question, Commissioner Dean. We have gotten participation from the public on the legislative matter. Um, I just spoke with Brent this morning to summarize
last week's planning commission meeting.
11:06:56 And there were 3 or 4 public comments made uh by folks who have been participating all along. So people definitely interested.
11:07:02 And the substance of the matter in terms of feedback on people who want to apply for a land use permit for short term rentals. We had some initial feedback when the initial
moratorium happened earlier this year.
11:07:17 And I haven't heard of anything from my staff. Of course I'm not out in the lobby every day listening, but I feel like I would have heard that kind of feedback, and I apologize
for not asking. But really, I just rethink we haven't heard much about that. I think people understand that.
11:07:31 Um, the process is happening. And um, we have not. As as we initially said, we haven't changed the priority order of any kind of compliance, action, so short term rentals that
don't involve.
11:07:42 Environmental impacts or some other significant um.
11:07:47 Related compliance, issue.
11:07:50 Um are still lower. Tier. We have 3 tiers of priorities, essentially lower, tier. So we have.
11:07:55 Neither have been processing applications nor reverse pursuing people who may be, may have been traditionally operating such businesses without the land use approval.
11:08:03 And I think people are just waiting with bated breath, perhaps some of them to have these new regulations in place, so they can go ahead and apply. And that's what we're gonna
do. As we've mentioned. Soon as new regulations are adopted, we're gonna do another press release, and then we'll invite applications in.
11:08:18 Meanwhile.
11:08:19 We are currently setting up the inspection program and going to be doing inspections for those short term rentals that already have land use permits approximately 85.
11:08:28 And uh, so that's what we're moving forward with. The office of the fire, Marsh.
11:08:32 And as soon as we get staffed up and ready to have a new batch of applications come in, then.
11:08:38 Uh, then we'll we expect to have more um applications to process, and then more life safety inspections to conduct over the next couple of years.
11:08:47 And I'm assuming you're anticipating a huge surge of applications once.
11:08:52 The regulations go in place.
11:08:54 Yeah, hard to predict exactly what that's gonna look like. Um, as as I think we've mentioned in previous conversations.
11:09:02 Some of the initial data.
11:09:04 That we've been presented.
11:09:06 Uh suggest that there may be hundreds, perhaps even 500 um operations of short term rentals around the county.
11:09:13 Um. I don't.
11:09:14 I don't have the tools, or nor have I had the time to really investigate that to see the.
11:09:20 To see about the veracity of that data. But.
11:09:22 Uh, in any case I would. I would expect there to be at least.
11:09:28 Uh couple score.
11:09:29 Applications right off the bat, and then, after that, you know, there could be, it could filter off, or we could get another 100 to 200, or maybe even more. But I don't. I don't
expect there to be 500 applications in the 1st month.
11:09:41 But I guess you never know.
11:09:44 Well and and previously operating short term. Rental, transient rentals would still be um permitted under the previous.
11:09:54 Code, correct.
11:09:57 They have in permanent. Yeah, if they were permitted.
11:09:59 Oh, okay, alright. I wasn't sure what? By your question. Yes, so there's no change to those folks who already have the 85 or so already have permits.
11:10:06 Um. The the change might come.
11:10:09 More specifically in.
11:10:12 Um.
11:10:12 Having to do with the inspection process, or any other additional.
11:10:18 Additional regulations that could affect existing permanent holders. But.
11:10:21 I will say nothing that I've heard so far in the conversation that the.
11:10:26 That the public has had in those 3 different district meetings, nor in the planning commission.
11:10:31 Meetings themselves has suggested that there'd be some kind of process by which those permanent holders were sort of lose their permit, or anything like that where no one at
this point no one, is suggesting that we establish a program by which.
11:10:42 You know, those permits would expire, and they have to reapply. They'd have to get back in line or anything like that. So essentially.
11:10:48 Um, we'd be honoring those uses that have already been approved through our process.
11:10:53 Thank you.
11:10:55 Any other.
11:10:58 Okay? So I will open the hearing. Then I open the hearing on an ordinance relating to development regulations for short term rentals, declaring an emergency and establishing
a moratorium on acceptance and processing of applications for hospitality. Establishment permits for transient residences.
11:11:17 Residences or transient guest houses per Jefferson County Code.
11:11:22 Jccc. 1, 8, dot, 2 dot, 2 10 parentheses, 3.
11:11:26 This is ordinance number 0, 3, dash 0, 6, 1, 0, dash 24.
11:11:33 And I will um open this hearing, and if you're interested in making a comment on this ordinance.
11:11:39 Please. There's nobody in the room with us, so please um use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring you over, and you'll have 3Â min for comments.
11:11:49 And um. You'll need to state your name and place of residence for this hearing.
11:11:56 Our hearing is open.
11:12:00 And see one, and up.
11:12:03 But.
11:12:11 Good morning again, Mr. Arnell. You'll have 3Â min for comments, and.
11:12:18 Testimony.
11:12:20 Good morning, Shelley. Arnell Brennan, um. I was at the Planning commission meeting the other night. There were as many people from the public at that meeting, as there were
people from the planning commission. There were lots of questions and lots of um things that to me, uh, still have a a big impact on what you're looking to do.
11:12:44 My specific question was about enforcement, and I had heard in a previous uh meeting that enforcement would be handled um by the code Enforcement team that's already in process.
11:12:59 And we have a hard enough time getting them to enforce the work that they're currently doing, let alone, if they have this many more things that they have to put on their plate.
What's gonna take precedent? What isn't um? I think that that needs to be clearly defined.
11:13:16 Um, a couple of things that were on the table were a lottery system for these permits, or uh a percentage for the number of houses that uh, if there were uh 600 houses, and
it was one or 10%, that would be the number of permits.
11:13:33 So I think that there's lots of information that still needs to be tightened up, because, like in in uh Port Townsend, you have hotels and stuff for people to stay in lots of
lots of lodging. But in South County we have our uh short term rentals. And that's basically all we have.
11:13:53 So we need to have more term rentals in this space than maybe Port Townsend might, because there are other places already to stay. So I just think that there are lots of things
still that need to be addressed. And um.
11:14:07 Tightened up before there's a decision made. Thank you.
11:14:12 Thank you. Shelley.
11:14:15 Um. Is there anybody else with us who would like to testify on this issue?
11:14:20 Today. Short term rental. Our short term rental ordinance.
11:14:25 Moratorium, moratorium. Sorry we will.
11:14:28 Bring you over once we see your hand go up. I see Mr. Hand is up. Is there anyone else who would like to get in line to make a public comment on the short term rental moratorium.
11:14:38 Um.
11:14:39 Use the right hand button in the bottom of your zoom screen.
11:14:42 And Mr. Tears, you will have.
11:14:45 3Â min. Once you get unmuted and identify yourself.
11:14:51 Ah, thank you for the record. Tom Tears, President of Jefferson County.
11:14:54 Um.
11:14:57 The uh. I'm glad to see that you're holding this hearing to uh enforce moratorium.
11:15:03 Absolutely necessary time to get the proposed ordinance crafted.
11:15:08 And fine tuned to meet the actual needs.
11:15:11 Um.
11:15:13 But the one concern I had about what Mr. Peters mentioned in his remarks.
11:15:19 Uh regarding existing permits.
11:15:22 Is the fact that.
11:15:24 There's gonna be no change.
11:15:26 So you're going to allow the 85 permits that exist to continue to operate with unsafe conditions unexpected for fire. Don't have fire extinguisher sprinklers don't have adequate
size window openings. All those other things that any new permit holders gonna have to have.
11:15:42 That seems extraordinarily dangerous so, and creates a liability for the county.
11:15:46 So. Uh, yes, I did not attend the planning commission meeting to to make those comments cause I thought that.
11:15:52 Meeting was not going to be held.
11:15:53 But I'll be the next.
11:15:54 Thank you.
11:15:57 Thank you. Mr. Tears.
11:16:00 Josh.
11:16:01 Do you want to respond to that comment? Do you want to close public hearing? Um? Oh, sorry.
11:16:06 Sorry. Is there anyone else with us who would like to make a um.
11:16:11 To testify on this matter of the short term rental moratorium. It's.
11:16:17 This ordinance addresses.
11:16:19 If so, use the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen.
11:16:23 Anyone else wanting to make a comment on this.
11:16:28 Seeing no other hands go up, I'll close this hearing on the short term rental moratorium, and maybe let Josh respond to.
11:16:38 Mr. Tears comment cause that.
11:16:39 That's not the way I heard you say it, but.
11:16:43 There's nuance in hearing right.
11:16:46 Yes, thank you for the opportunity, and clearly I didn't communicate effectively. I was.
11:16:52 Refer. I was interpreting the question from Commissioner Dean More to be about.
11:16:57 Would there be.
11:16:57 According to the current conversation, what I've heard as being on the table for proposing.
11:17:05 Would there be any.
11:17:06 Uh risk, for example, of current holders to essentially lose their permit.
11:17:12 Not because they did something wrong, but just simply by the fact that there could be new limitations, and they would have to re enter such a lottery system as Missy Arnell
said.
11:17:22 And my understanding is that no, that hasn't been raised. I didn't mean to imply. In fact, I tried to say that.
11:17:27 But there are aspects of the new regulations that could definitely apply to them as existing permanent holders.
11:17:33 And uh, the fact is actually that.
11:17:36 Uh we do uh.
11:17:37 Have the right to have those fire uh life safety inspections on existing permanent holders already so.
11:17:43 Um. I just wanted to spell that notion that we wouldn't be inspecting current.
11:17:49 Um.
11:17:50 Permit holders. In fact, I thought I'd mentioned clearly that.
11:17:53 The the office of the fire marshal would actually start doing those inspections. Now.
11:17:58 For the per current permit. Holders.
11:18:00 And it would only be the future permanent holders. Of course. Um! Once they were given a permit to the new regulations that would be added to that list. So.
11:18:06 That's that, and in terms of um what Miss Yarnell said just quickly.
11:18:11 Absolutely. There are things about the proposal that have yet to be ironed out completely. As I mentioned, Brand Butler will be going back to the planning commission to make
sure that.
11:18:19 Uh. The list of things that he heard is an accurate list. According to what the planning Commission has already discussed, there were a few couple of members, I think, that
were not available at the last meeting, perhaps could.
11:18:29 Could participate in the next meeting.
11:18:30 This is all pre planning for a proposal. So just wanna assure um, the 2 commenters today, or anybody else interested that.
11:18:38 The next parts of the process is to actually convert everything that we've heard into an actual ordinance that has line in line, in line out language.
11:18:47 For the development code at the section that Commissioner Eisenhower cited.
11:18:52 And that there would be a planning public hearing held before the planning Commission.
11:18:56 That would then discuss the comments. The proposal make a recommendation, and then Staff would carry that recommendation to the Board, and the Board could choose to have another
hearing or accept a planning Commission recommendation to amend our development code. So they're still.
11:19:09 Process left. There's still refinement to be done. The actual proposal is not on the table. We've just done a lot of talking about all the options, because this is.
11:19:17 The type of uh issue that.
11:19:20 Has a lot of nuances. That's a lot of information. Different jurisdictions have tried different things.
11:19:23 Port Angeles tries something. Port Townsend has done something. Those are cities a little bit different than counties, but other counties have also wrestled with this issue
and come up with their own program. So we've tried to learn from all those different programs to tailor something that works for us. And we've had a lot of feedback, and people have
different opinions about it. But there was.
11:19:39 I think, from what I heard from Brent, a developing consensus around some of the main aspects of a proposal, and there there probably will be differences of opinion even at
the planning commission level.
11:19:49 About some of the things um, some of those things for which we do not have consensus. Yet.
11:19:54 Thank you. Josh.
11:19:55 Any other questions.
11:19:58 Herbs and comments, um!
11:20:01 Just, you know, like to always state that we do not relish doing Moratoria. Um, it is.
11:20:08 Not the intent to make it difficult for people to.
11:20:12 Um.
11:20:13 Develop their property in ways that you know they see as beneficial. But um, you know, when there's enough.
11:20:20 Uh lack of clarity and um collective.
11:20:26 On the ease around something. The um! It is a great way for us to be able to say, Hey, let's hit the pause button and do a better job of having.
11:20:35 Clear and fair regulation. So that's that's the process we're in. Um. So right now, the opportunity for the public to engage, as Josh said, is what the planning commission process
and um just want to point out on.
11:20:46 The uh community development website. There's a on the left side. There's something called Project Links.
11:20:52 That um, you can choose short term rentals on a list of projects there, and that will take you to all the information. Um.
11:20:59 Including.
11:21:02 Presumably dates and agendas for planning commission. Josh, is that I just wanna be sure that we're directing people to the right place. Um.
11:21:10 Thank you. I'm not sure that the the public, if the attendees can see the what's in the chat.
11:21:17 No, I can make it so that it goes to.
11:21:20 Okay.
11:21:21 Um? And does that have the.
11:21:24 Links to planning commission.
11:21:26 Um activity. Josh.
11:21:29 There is a there's a link from the short term Rentals page to the planning Commission page, which, of course, can also be accessed from the Dcd. Homepage, so.
11:21:38 Um, I believe that. Let's see, I'm looking at the notice of public hearing, and there's a link to our laser feature packet.
11:21:44 And then on the.
11:21:46 The agenda for today we did put a link, the one that I just put into the chat.
11:21:50 To get directly to the short term rentals. Web page on the Dcd. Website.
11:21:56 And, as I mentioned, the next meeting is July 17.th That'll just be discussion really, around.
11:22:02 Around capturing what the planning commission, so far.
11:22:06 Has proposed, as a list of things to be included in an ordinance.
11:22:09 And then we'll have make sure that our our website.
11:22:14 Has a under news and and planning commission, etc. Have a.
11:22:17 The actual public hearing.
11:22:19 Schedule. Once we establish what that date is, and of course, then we also have to do a legal notice for that, too. So we will try every avenue to make sure that people know
what that date is. Once it gets established.
11:22:31 Do you think that could go on the short term rentals? Page, too? I just I hate to send people in too many different places.
11:22:38 I agree with you, I think we should do that as well.
11:22:40 Um, it's a we we have a.
11:22:42 I don't know if you've noticed, but we've.
11:22:44 We've changed over our website quite a bit lately to try to simplify. Certainly the homepage, I'd say, is the main thing.
11:22:50 And then it's just a question of keeping up to speed and up to date with all the various pages we've tried to take out all the information that we found was outdated. I think
it's just.
11:23:00 I'm talking like over the 5, 6 or years, 5 or 6 years, just the the turnover and staff, and the and the changes in in the variety of projects that we've been working on. So
we tried to take all that old information off and replace it with new.
11:23:11 And so um, sometimes it is a is a puzzle to just keep even multiple pages updated. But certainly I think in this case, yes, we will put on the short term rental page. In fact,
I'll even take a look at that this afternoon, and just just make sure that Page is up to speed.
11:23:25 And then, once the hearing date is established in front of the Plan Commission will.
11:23:28 We'll make sure that's on there as well.
11:23:31 If people went to the community Development main page they would see the links to the intergov.
11:23:39 Called something else self service Portal. You can now use our new database tool to find permits. Click here, and it takes you.
11:23:46 I mean, that's I noticed this the other day, but I'm just saying it out loud, and in our meeting that there's the portal, is there?
11:23:53 Which is.
11:23:55 I've been talking about this for 4 years. This is awesome.
11:24:01 Um. So I just wanted to, you know, give folks a sense of where to go with questions and comments about the legislation which is separate from the moratorium which we're talking
about today. I know um, so sorry to conflate those 2, but I think.
11:24:13 Or the public's sake. It's helpful to.
11:24:15 Yeah, understand? The difference?
11:24:18 Um, yeah. So I'm certainly happy to move forward with the ordinance today and um, just with the.
11:24:25 Reminder that we're trying to be as efficient as possible. But you know these are complex issues. And, miss, you are now brought up some of the.
11:24:32 That very complexity that you know there's there's different needs and different desires and different communities. And of course, a lot of different opinions. Um, and even
the the data on impacts to the local.
11:24:45 Um rental market is.
11:24:47 Still, that's still relatively new and young field of study, and a little bit hard to interpret that data. So.
11:24:52 Um.
11:24:54 It is complex. And yeah, we're trying to to land on the best.
11:24:59 Um.
11:25:01 Best regulatory framework ends.
11:25:03 Would be interesting to see how how we take. Is it, Brent? Kind of 7 main categories of issues to be resolved, and how quickly. We can work through those. But.
11:25:13 Certainly committed to trying to get this across the finish line.
11:25:17 I'm happy to entertain a motion on this.
11:25:20 Or.
11:25:27 Ordinance is already adopted. I had a question on that.
11:25:32 In the Resolute and the agenda request, says.
11:25:35 Direct. The recommendation is to accept public testimony regarding ordinance. Ah, 3.
11:25:41 So. So we are already.
11:25:46 We confirm that, Mr. Hunsucker, that we do not take action because the ordinance has already been adopted.
11:25:53 You, you still need you.
11:25:55 You still need to approve it.
11:25:58 It was approved. June 10.th Are we.
11:26:00 Adopting it by a different ordinance number, then, or.
11:26:04 No, you. It's you had adopted with the current ordinance number.
11:26:10 I will move to approve and adopt an ordinance relating to development regulations for short term rentals, declaring an emergency and establishing a moratorium on acceptance
and processing of applications for hospitality. Establishment permits for transient residences or transient guest houses per Jefferson County Code, Jccc. 18, dot. 2210, c. 3.
11:26:32 Second all in favor.
11:26:34 Hi hi.
11:26:36 Passes unanimously.
11:26:38 Thank you. Everyone.
11:26:41 Thank you.
11:26:43 Hey!
11:26:45 Um. So back to our leftover agenda. Item, the.
11:26:50 Item from earlier this morning establishment of a local emergency planning committee and approval of bylaws and appointment of members.
11:26:57 Um. Staff was working on an updated.
11:27:01 Um set of.
11:27:04 Resolution.
11:27:07 Michael Dummy on the other screen. So wait.
11:27:11 And we didn't have to change the bylaws and.
11:27:15 Let me remember the semidet. Got it? Yeah, I wanted to.
11:27:17 Further direction. Here.
11:27:24 So I added, This here.
11:27:27 But I want further. Can you change it to one page? View.
11:27:32 Cause. It's well impossible to see it.
11:27:38 You just have to see the rest of my page. That's fine. I just.
11:27:41 No, I mean.
11:27:43 I I zoom in or something, but also zoom at the options. Okay.
11:27:48 Okay. I didn't know that.
11:27:53 Got it. I zoomed.
11:27:55 Okay, so um silly clarification. If you're going to take out the um.
11:28:01 Last page, and if so, I'll have to.
11:28:05 Uh, I mean exhibit a.
11:28:07 Yeah. Not exhibit. B, right?
11:28:08 No, yeah, if you do that, exhibit A, I'd have to take that out of the resolution. And then.
11:28:13 Exhibit B. Return to exhibit A.
11:28:21 I I would be fine with removing, exhibit a.
11:28:27 And so then section 4 says, appointment of members. So you're taking that? Then.
11:28:33 Because it's a separate motion.
11:28:37 That's part of the action we need to take today.
11:28:39 The Board will appoint.
11:28:43 Members.
11:28:45 To the Jefferson County. Yeah.
11:28:51 The Board appoints the Jefferson County, Lepc.
11:28:55 That's all it needs to say.
11:28:57 I.
11:29:01 That would keep the heading appointments of members just for consistency. I was just kind of.
11:29:06 The next sentence the Board appoints.
11:29:09 The Jefferson County, Elepc.
11:29:14 Individuals.
11:29:16 2.
11:29:23 Mm.
11:29:25 And then uh.
11:29:27 I would delete all this.
11:29:30 But we still need to appoint people today. Yeah.
11:29:33 So we'll use this verbiage for your appointment later. I can take it off. The final thing.
11:29:38 Okay.
11:29:39 Um.
11:29:42 Can we point by so as a slate.
11:29:44 Mm-hmm.
11:29:46 The bylaw exhibit a.
11:29:49 So after you approve this resolution, then you can approve the slate.
11:29:53 Of members. Is that what you're.
11:29:56 Sounds good.
11:29:58 You know what else.
11:30:01 We read that language first.st
11:30:03 This one right here? Yeah. Where? So? Whereas whack 11841 60.
11:30:09 States that that each level of committee shall include.
11:30:12 At minimum representation from each of the following groups of organizations, as specified by Section 3. Ah. One c. Of defines the groups and organizations required for Lepsey
membership.
11:30:24 1 3.rd Oh, so I take that 7 uh State and local officials law enforcement, firefighting, 1st Aid, health profession, local environmental hospital broadcast and print media community
groups, owners and operators of facilities subject to the requirements of section 3 0. 2 b. Of.
11:30:44 And then, and other stakeholders was not part of the whack, but you wanted that included. So um.
11:30:53 That is section that's 1. Whereas we updated.
11:30:58 Other. Let's see. Oh, this right here other, whereas now I should build a design such as folks are listed should take that out, that whereas.
11:31:08 We're changing.
11:31:09 Be right, and then.
11:31:16 Section 5.
11:31:17 Oh, yeah, change. The a, yeah.
11:31:20 Okay.
11:31:32 Yeah. Well, done. Okay.
11:31:35 So we're taking this out. But for now I'm keeping it on so you can see the screen.
11:31:40 But you can prove the slightest members.
11:31:42 As a son, screen.
11:31:45 Maryland the first, st whereas misspelled.
11:31:49 Hmm.
11:31:54 I'll move to approve the resolution in the matter of establishment of a local emergency planning committee and membership.
11:32:00 Appointments as amended today.
11:32:04 All in favor of the resume. There was a change to the resolution that was shown to the public.
11:32:09 All the public comments.
11:32:13 Oh, we'll wanna call for public comments. Okay?
11:32:15 So.
11:32:17 Um! Is there anybody with us?
11:32:20 On zoom today, cause there's no one in the room anymore who's interested in making a public comment on this matter, which is the um establishment of a local emergency planning
committee.
11:32:33 Uh, indicate your interest by using the raise hand button at the bottom of your zoom screen, and we'll bring you over for public comments.
11:32:46 Very interested in making a comment, not seeing any hands go up.
11:32:51 I'll close public comment on this item.
11:32:55 And now.
11:32:56 Entertain a motion.
11:32:58 Motions already on the table.
11:33:02 All in favor of the motion on the floor and the cake, by saying, Aye.
11:33:05 Aye, aye.
11:33:07 None opposed passes unanimously.
11:33:12 I'll move that we appoint the slate of members to the new local Emergency Planning Committee, as shown on the screen now and presented in the agenda.
11:33:22 A second.
11:33:23 All in favor of appointing these folks to our new uh.
11:33:28 Local emergency planning committee indicate by raising your hand.
11:33:32 Aye.
11:33:33 Any opposed.
11:33:35 Any outstanding.
11:33:36 That passes unanimously.
11:33:39 Okay? And then we have to do the bylaws right.
11:33:41 Uh, that was part of the reservation. Oh, okay, great.
11:33:45 Okay.
11:33:47 So um.
11:33:49 That item is done. Is there anything else for the good of the order?
11:33:55 You know.
11:33:56 I do have a noon meeting downtown.
11:34:01 So we need to have 5Â min.
11:34:04 Short week, last week.
11:34:06 I, yeah.
11:34:08 High points last week in this.
11:34:12 I just like it so long ago. I know I can go first.st It was a short week for me.
11:34:18 Uh, let's see, was with you guys on Monday the first.st
11:34:24 And then I had to bail on the North Canal Chamber meeting to go.
11:34:28 Dan got my daughter to buy her 1st car.
11:34:31 And on Tuesday, um.
11:34:35 Add a couple.
11:34:38 Zoom Meetings, and then the.
11:34:41 Um. Jefferson, Community Foundation Director joined the Edc. Finance Committee to talk about 5 0. 1 c. 3 s. And options. There.
11:34:51 On a Wednesday we met with uh Christina Hayworth and the team from Scj. As well as Josh Peters, who's just with us, and.
11:34:58 Amanda Christopherson to go over the Glen Cove.
11:35:02 Project to use the 60 K. Grant from the uh.
11:35:06 Oh! And am I, Emma?
11:35:08 Pulling from the city was there as well.
11:35:10 To go over the grant for.
11:35:13 The Glenn Cove outreach. Really.
11:35:16 And then uh had a cool kind of not work related thing. But uh Dylan from the point. No point. Treat our our cougar and get to spend an hour to looking around, and found to be
respectful. That were the reason that uh.
11:35:30 Swift, I think, is how you pronounce his name, which means and.
11:35:34 Yeah.
11:35:36 Which means one who wanders around the forest aimlessly, and he does kind of what he's doing as a displaced male, but was super cool and.
11:35:44 We let them take the Beaver school. We had a little.
11:35:46 Silent fight. Stacy and I, you know, thought it'd be cool. That would be restolen. But he is arguing. That would be used for educational purposes uh, gave it some utility elsewhere.
So.
11:35:58 Well, we found one lower. We already had one lower job, and we're trying to figure out like we following his little Geo. Geo. Tag spots.
11:36:06 Um, and we found the place where he caught them, and uh.
11:36:10 So we we have one bottom. We only found one complete uh uh skull uh that. He took.
11:36:18 So still looking for the other one. But they'll they'll eat the bones. A lot of the bones were broken up. They need a lot of calcium, I guess the young cougars, but it was.
It was super cool.
11:36:26 I just say, when I was in Central Illinois last week, my aunt uncle's house. They had a cooker on their property because they had a cougar that came from North Dakota, you know,
we yeah. We learned they.
11:36:40 Did you say yours have come from Phenol Lake Cushman and baggage started Eagle Mountain. It's display. So you gotta find your own territory. And he talked about how challenged
they were like one of them, several of them. They track him, and they come up to like.
11:36:55 Boat Haven and Port Townsend, and they end up in the bay, and they're just looking for some way to go north to find new territory. But it's really challenging, because we're
a peninsula. So they end up uh.
11:37:04 Yeah, going back and forth. So this one's up and down.
11:37:08 Swam across Lake Cushman. Yeah.
11:37:13 The Midwest, where there's so much space, there's still hundreds of miles.
11:37:18 Um, and those were really the high points uh off the 4, th and mostly off. Just a little bit of work getting ready, for should I just go quickly into this week? Um, the healthier
task force, I think they told you, wanted an additional meeting. So we're meeting today, really, just to have conversation about what we've learned so far start to form. We're gonna.
11:37:38 Uh Todd Maguire took a stab at populating spreadsheet we've been working on, and we've.
11:37:42 Powerpoint from another member. We're gonna go through talking about findings, and and uh.
11:37:48 Recommendations.
11:37:48 Tomorrow. We've talked about the Shelter Coalition meeting already. That's happening, and then I'll be at Tcc in the afternoon.
11:37:55 Wednesday I have an Orca meeting. Virtually I will be going the uh.
11:38:02 The at Sdr. Uh the report on the paper mail emissions. Um, I'll be going to the report building from one ish.
11:38:10 And then out to Port Ludlow for the uh Port Ludlow Village Council Meeting, which is on Wednesday this week.
11:38:17 Then on Thursday is the Uh Olympic Workforce Development meeting on Zoom.
11:38:24 Meeting with uh one of the Housing Fund Board meeting members to talk about 5 Year Plan and data needs committee.
11:38:30 And then, when I kind of.
11:38:33 I totally forgot to do the AI meeting last last month, and and that's this is, I don't know. I have a conflict this month.
11:38:40 Well. The 4th of July was the conflict, but sometime, then, kind of try to schedule the AI Work group internally.
11:38:47 On Friday we have another special meeting of the Ltc. And then I will be doing the data needs committee.
11:38:53 And then, uh, Gary will be joining me on Kpz, which I think has been unpreempted since it was last week. That was Phil tunes.
11:39:00 And uh, and we'll be talking about the the transition 1st week with the uh B side managing the the shelter at the American Legion, and that's my week, any early reports, and
how it's going.
11:39:13 Um, I think it's going well, there's still issues to be worked out. There's some system plumbing things that they're working through. But according to a brief report from Gary.
It's it's it's working well. So the food is something that still definitely a hanging chad meals and all that.
11:39:29 Hopefully, that's something we can.
11:39:31 At least get planned out tomorrow. They do have budget capacity, for, you know, purchasing pizzas and stuff, you know, for a while, while they get this set up, too. So.
11:39:40 Um, yeah, all. All's going well, but still work to be done.
11:39:46 They have hired a shelter manager.
11:39:50 That it was certain.
11:39:52 I could go awesome.
11:39:54 Just real quick last week, also short week.
11:39:57 Um.
11:39:59 I have. Uh, you know, we're we're anticipating Mr. Macaulay's retirement next year, so started to have conversations with some of our fellow electives and directors about.
11:40:09 Their, you know, thoughts on process. So I'll be bringing that to you guys in the future. Not a.
11:40:16 Big rush. But you know, trying to get some input to help shape our our thinking.
11:40:22 Um.
11:40:23 I had an interesting meeting with the.
11:40:25 Staff from the State Board of Health. Um.
11:40:29 So, speaking of aquatic facilities, the State is rewriting the. It's called the model aquatics rule, so state rule that most local jurisdictions adopt because local health departments
and jurisdictions do a lot of the uh.
11:40:41 Safety and permitting around product centers. And they're finding now, funny hearing about this, there's all these new.
11:40:49 Um, especially with.
11:40:51 Uh inflatable technology changing so rapidly. There's there's all this like.
11:40:56 Cool, new.
11:40:57 Things that are being introduced into a product centers. It's cheaper than building in permanent infrastructure. You could just have a big, inflatable something that up to the
ceiling, to.
11:41:07 You know, when it sound recreation time it brought down. But um! The safety of those has been totally unregulated, like a climbing wall. But you know there's not a lot of data
or engineering yet on how deep does water have to be for fell from the top of that inflated timing wall? What.
11:41:32 Kinds of swimmers could have.
11:41:34 Trouble in what depth of water? And right? So it's yeah. So it's um. We've been petitioned to.
11:41:41 Change the world, to, to.
11:41:42 Do some rule writing for these um devices. So they're just a different aquatic.
11:41:49 Hadn't even thought about that. Yeah. Well, but it was helpful for me to be able to say, Yeah, this is happening because these are affordable. You know, communities are looking
for affordable ways to provide these amenities. People want more fun stuff. Exactly. Yeah. And it's cheaper to do an inflatable. That's.
11:42:06 Not fixed, right, so.
11:42:11 Um.
11:42:13 Let's see, um. Friday had a good chat with them.
11:42:17 Matt Gurney at Fortney, talking about some workforce development stuff that might eventually get handed off to you, Greg, but um.
11:42:24 Just try to.
11:42:25 Connect them with some ideas and resources around workforce development. Um.
11:42:32 Uh radio shows canceled due to the free Friday. Um, and I scheduled 9. Yeah. Scheduled my meetings at the port for the radio show. Oh, shoot! But it was amazing to see how um.
11:42:44 A peck it was. It's really great to see. They haven't even know the you know. Pds.
11:42:50 Facing some challenges. The port is so so beloved. They said it was the highest number of registrants they'd ever had for Middleton. Oh, wow, and a lot of young people inspiring.
Yeah.
11:43:02 Then just had a an annual check in with Uh Junia from Jefferson healthcare on Friday.
11:43:08 This week upcoming. Um, I've got my noon meeting is uh walk and talk with John Morrow and Erin trying to see if we can identify any options, not memorial, field.
11:43:25 Um.
11:43:27 Tomorrow. I've got a maritime Washington National Heritage Area Board meeting in the morning. I'm gonna meet with our lobbyist 3 60.
11:43:37 Our.
11:43:38 Federal lobbyists at noon, just to.
11:43:41 Continuing conversation that we had here.
11:43:44 That a leadership Council meeting for the fidget, and then a quick meeting with Josh.
11:43:50 Good afternoon. Wednesday, child. Care team meeting, able to attend for a while and then cancel trails.
11:43:57 Thursday Board of Health Planning agenda, planning, meeting some.
11:44:03 Is it? Board of Health? Was also petitioned.
11:44:08 By our friend.
11:44:10 Brennan. Who's um?
11:44:12 Concerns really wanting there to be more pathways for.
11:44:17 Our v's to have um.
11:44:19 Primitive.
11:44:21 External. Yes, so Shakespeare. State port of health for that. So that's been elevated. Yup.
11:44:29 A gender review with Mark Thursday afternoon, and then a.
11:44:33 Paragraphs board meeting Thursday evening.
11:44:38 That's my week.
11:44:41 Looking back will be quick for me. Um!
11:44:44 Let's see other than.
11:44:47 Battle, voting on the lake with Greg for us. Too short of a time. I would have wanted to do all the way across the lake.
11:44:53 On Wednesday. I also attended the 1st community wildfire planning.
11:44:59 Project, Tracker Training.
11:45:01 Um.
11:45:03 Swc. Has created a uh.
11:45:05 Tool that we can use to track all the activities that we.
11:45:09 Defined as part of the community, wildfire plan, and all the.
11:45:12 Um assignments.
11:45:15 And it was just our initial conversation about um. Look at what they have drafted and what.
11:45:20 What pieces we might want added to it.
11:45:23 I, for example, added the a responsible party field. So we know who is responsible for each of the activities. So.
11:45:32 Then um! We had a second opioid um.
11:45:37 Retreat kind of debrief, and look forward and.
11:45:41 We're talking about additional ways to do outreach um.
11:45:46 With folks who are suffering from substance, use, disorder.
11:45:51 And talking about the Public Health Monthly. Pizza parties are having.
11:45:56 Um, so we could survey uh attendees regarding their transportation and housing needs, which came out as the top 2 kind of.
11:46:05 Areas of focus out of our retreat that we had.
11:46:09 And we also kind of.
11:46:12 When big picture. And so it talked about the legislative session and the nexus between housing.
11:46:17 An opioid funds, and if there's any opportunity within a legislature.
11:46:21 To talk about funding for.
11:46:24 Addressing.
11:46:26 That need that seems like a pretty. I mean, we all know housing is a need, but it's also.
11:46:30 A need specifically for this population, and is that being addressed anywhere, we don't know.
11:46:35 But um.
11:46:37 Looks like there'll be more to do in the next legislative session.
11:46:42 Um.
11:46:44 Anyway, so uh, and then.
11:46:47 That was the end of my week. Last week.
11:46:50 Can't this week here with you today.
11:46:55 Making tamales for interdependence day. This evening.
11:46:59 Um.
11:47:01 Meeting with Chief Black in the morning to talk about more of our community, Wildfire, and fall on work.
11:47:07 Attending their retired public employees. Picnic at Hj. Carroll Park, middle of the day.
11:47:13 And then we have our behavioral Health Advisory Committee meeting in the afternoon.
11:47:16 On Wednesday. I have 2 meetings in the morning. One is the Washington Dn. Carbon and Forest Management Work Group, and then also the Port Short Farm Work group, so I'll probably
go to the.
11:47:27 Sure from our group, and Misha, the 1st half of the.
11:47:30 Dnr. Meeting.
11:47:30 Then I plan to attend that 24th legislative district candidate for him. Just so. I'm.
11:47:36 Curious at the maritime center. In the afternoon.
11:47:39 Um.
11:47:40 And.
11:47:42 Maybe the very end of the Grange meeting, because.
11:47:44 Next weekend is Interdependence Day in chemical.
11:47:48 On Sunday.
11:47:49 Um Thursday, and I'll attend the gathering at 10 Am. At Fin River, at the Peninsula Coalition and the Land Trust, talking about.
11:47:58 Route Options getting from.
11:48:01 That bridge up to.
11:48:03 Um.
11:48:04 Yes, right now we're talking Anderson Lake.
11:48:08 Um. And then I have my monthly Jefferson County Forestry check in with Mark and Mallory.
11:48:15 And then on Friday I have.
11:48:17 The Trustline Transfer Advisory Committee meeting number 2.
11:48:21 And then in the afternoon, 4 overlapping conflicts.
11:48:25 Um. So I let's see.
11:48:29 On a Friday afternoon in the summer county, coordinated response. Here in the Bss. Chambers.
11:48:37 The um, the encumbered Lands Work group.
11:48:40 DNA. Another Dnr work group.
11:48:43 The salish um regional sud follow up meeting which.
11:48:48 I'm hoping that one of our other team members can attend either Apple or Anna.
11:48:54 And then the Nico Public Land Steering Committee. So.
11:48:59 Right afternoon, and I'll be ugly. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. I feel like I've trained a lot of my committees to not meet. On Friday afternoon.
11:49:12 So. Yep, that's mine my week.
11:49:16 And if there's nothing else, anything, mark.
11:49:19 What has your calendar look? Well, of course. Monday. The 1st we were in this room together, senior management at 9.
11:49:32 Took money to lunch.
11:49:38 A mixture of personal and professional.
11:49:42 And then 18 meeting at 2 o'clock, and then I met with this.
11:49:46 Hello! Who?
11:49:48 Tries to streamline.
11:49:51 Applications for wireless telecommunications, facilities. It was really bizarre. I passed them off to Josh Peters and um.
11:49:59 And and Greg over there at uh.
11:50:01 Community development to see if they want to take advantage of this guy's services.
11:50:07 And then the 3rd kind of a light day just met with. Josh.
11:50:12 Leaders, and then.
11:50:14 The Briggs.
11:50:15 Wonderful property out there in the woods, and then off to the lake.
11:50:20 This week.
11:50:22 Course.
11:50:23 With the board today.
11:50:25 Tomorrow we're gonna sit with central services to resume negotiations.
11:50:31 And then ATB. Meeting at 2 o'clock, and then my weekly to Josh Peters.
11:50:37 Then on the 10.th
11:50:39 Meeting with uh.
11:50:41 Judy Shepherd and table staff do uh, and share melaton.
11:50:45 To close out Tracy Colman's employment. There's some questions about uh.
11:50:52 Pto payout, and so on.
11:50:56 Then my weekly meeting with Judith, and in the afternoon the North Olympic Peninsula City Manager County.
11:51:03 Administrator, meeting.
11:51:06 Thursday, CEO. Breakfast with Cindy Brooks.
11:51:10 The 4 stream meeting in the afternoon and.
11:51:13 Gender. Review, with key.
11:51:16 Whips.
11:51:18 Back to busy.
11:51:24 Thinking how how nice a 4 day weekend was, if only there were more of them.
11:51:32 Hey? Well, if there's nothing else, I'll adjourn this. Uh July 8th meeting of the Board of County Commissioners and see you around the courthouse in next week.
11:51:40 Sounds good. Have a great week. Stay cool.
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