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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 15, 2024 MinutesPage | 1 MINUTES Eighth Meeting - Healthier Together Task Force – Jefferson County Summary Meeting Minutes July 15, 2024 – 6:00 p.m. Jefferson County Commissioners Chambers In-person for members – The public is not allowed – Zoom available Task Force members in attendance: District 1: Todd McGuire District 1: Nancy Speser District 2: Celeste Schoenthaler District 2: Jim Scarantino District 3: Adele Govert District 3: Lynne Hovde At Large Member (Jefferson Aquatic Coalition rep): Cray Henry At Large Member (Jefferson Aquatic Coalition rep): Mary Rothschild Additional attendees included: Commissioner Greg Brotherton, Facilitator Diane McDade, JeffCo Aquatic Coalition President Carrie Hite, Director of Parks and Recreation Strategy for City of Port Townsend Wendy Bart, Executive Director for North Olympic YMCA Nick Gaggiano, Central Idaho Aquatic Center John Ireland, Myrtha Pools Shirley Gustafson, Myrtha Pools 1. Commissioner Greg Brotherton called the mee�ng to order at 6:00 p.m. 2. Greg discussed the agenda and there were no changes. He started the mee�ng by asking members to introduce themselves and shared an icebreaker ques�on. 3. The first presenter was Nick Gaggiano from the Central Idaho Aquatic Center. • This facility opened in June of 2023 and it took two (2) years to build and fundraise. Page | 2 • They designed a pool for competitive swimming and swim lessons which resulted in a 50 M pool and a shallower 25-yard pool. • In the summer of 2021, Myrtha pools were selected. A pool cover was requested so they looked at alternative roofs and eventually chose Sprung in early 2022. • Sprung was chosen because of the cost, upkeep, and they wanted to complete the pool in 24 months. • Myrtha built all Olympic pools for 40 years, and Olympic trial pools since 1976. • They chose Myrtha because of their high quality, low upkeep, and precision. • Myrtha delivered a perfect pool to us, with good customer service. • Big Ass Fans were installed to push the good air down, and take the bad air out. There is a code that requires air to turn over 6x/hr. • Their experience with Sprung Structures was great. There is a bit of movement but it holds up to the snow load. They had a change with the technicians during the erection of the project and Nick suggested handling this contractually so we have a good experience. • A local company designed the HVAC system and ductwork. All the ductwork needed to be insulated, adding 2.4M to the cost. • An additional 1000 s.f. was added on the ground for the HVAC system because it can’t go on the roof of a Sprung structure. • More parking should have been installed instead of the turf area. 4. John and Shirley were the second presenters from Myrtha pools: • John was the engineer of record for the Idaho project. • Myrtha is made of PVC sheets melted on stainless steel. • They are known for their competitive pools but also fabricate free forms, for YMCAs, other institutions, and government. • Myrtha conducts business in 82 countries and have been providing pools for 35 years. • They usually work with architects and contractors but can also bid on projects in Washington State. • The manufacturing is all automated and takes place in northern Italy. • They manufacture with 50% less of a carbon footprint than conventional pools. • It takes 120 days to manufacture and ship once an order arrives. • The system uses bolts with no welding. It is a permanently fixed system. • 95% of all pools in the U.S. are backfilled and in the ground. • Myrtha can also construct pools above ground with a corridor. • They provide a 25-year warranty. • They can manufacture with zero depth entry using their RenovAction composite flooring system. • Myrtha pools can be indefinitely drained with no delamination. • When asked about a septic system, John thought the building could flow into a septic, but the pool would be better draining into a sanitary sewer. Chlorinated water eats a septic system, so you would need to design a dichlorination tank. This is not common, nor inexpensive. • No cleaning is required. Page | 3 • A stand-alone gas-fired heater is recommended if needed. • John also recommends working with local suppliers so you have the labor locally to fix anything. • They have designed the Myrtha Breathe system, which removes chloramine from the gutter solution before it goes airborne. • Pool blankets can be used to keep the heat in. These are both efficient and effective. • When asked about pricing, Myrtha said they were more expensive than shotcrete in smaller pools, but you can see savings with more technology. Shirley presented next: • The team is very experienced. • They give you a detailed and accurate quote from the beginning. • Myrtha often works with an architect located in Spokane. John answered a question about Sprung Structures and their limitations: • You will need a very good HVAC system. • Extra space on the ground will be needed for the HVAC equipment. • You need to employ operators that know how to monitor and set air quality because if you have poor air quality it can eat your building. • Myrtha is dimensionally perfect, provides good water quality and designs gutters and a side wall system that moves more water. 5. Boise trip recap:  All task force members that visited Boise provided comments. They thought the Sprung structure was light and bright, and the natatorium had good air quality. Because of our rain, they would opt for Sprung to provide a hood at the entries. Everyone likes Myrtha pools.  Based on the Idaho experience, one member thought it would be important to have a core group in the community to move this forward. One member commented that private people can do this, and there would be no prevailing wage requirements.  Observations were noted that a great deal can fit into a lot measuring just 18- 20,000 s.f. and maybe a smaller footprint would be less expensive.  One member commented that the HVAC on the ground was very loud and worried about residential neighborhoods.  Commissioner Brotherton made some observations that Sprung might fit better in Chimacum or Hadlock, not as much in Port Townsend. Greg also thought the Taj Mahal version might be more economically viable. He also likes Myrtha and wants to understand Spring better. Greg likes having more family changing rooms like the William Shore Pool. 6. Diane McDade prepared some high-level slides for the beginning of a presentation. Task Force members are asked to send their thoughts to Wendy Housekeeper. Diane and Greg will synthesize the presentations and feedback. 7. Commissioner Brotherton adjourned the meeting at 8:00 P.M.