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HomeMy WebLinkAboutclosed_caption14:30:40 7. 14:30:48 One here. 14:30:50 Good afternoon, everyone. 14:30:52 I will. We do have a quorum right? 14:30:56 I will call this meeting of the Housing Fund Board to order 1st up, as always, is a public comment period. We have no public in the room with us today, but. 14:31:10 For any public online, raise hand button or star 9. If you're on the phone to indicate that you'd like to make public comment on any item on our agenda or within our realm of business. 14:31:23 And we'd love to hear from you for up to 3 min. 14:31:28 Right, not on the Zoom Meeting yet, but I assume new hands are raised. 14:31:32 No hands. I'll make one more call or public comment. You're gonna raise hand button or star 9. If you're on the phone. If you'd like public comment. 14:31:43 Okay, with no public comment. Are you able to hear me? Okay. 14:31:50 The little she's she's muted. 14:31:53 So I'm not sure. 14:31:54 But. 14:31:55 Audrey, can you unmute and tell me? Give me a text. 14:31:56 I'm sorry. 14:31:59 I'm just asking if you're able to hear me. 14:32:02 Yes. 14:32:03 Yeah, okay. 14:32:03 Sorry. My! It was cutting out a little. But yes. 14:32:06 Okay, great. I'm a little far away from the Owl cameras or microphone. Now. 14:32:10 Okay. Next up on the agenda is the approval of mid from June 26, th 24. You folks have a chance to review those minutes. 14:32:20 Any. 14:32:22 Corrections or comments, or I'd welcome a motion. 14:32:27 G. 14:32:29 24. 14:32:36 Max. 14:32:37 Sure I'll second. This is Julia. It's been moved and seconded to approve the minutes for April 26.th Any. 14:32:46 For the questions. 14:32:49 It's unlocked, but they just. 14:32:53 I think they were. 14:32:58 Okay. 14:32:59 All in favor of approving the minutes, as presented, indicate by saying. 14:33:03 And I I. 14:33:06 Be opposed. 14:33:09 Okay. 14:33:09 That motion carries. 14:33:11 Audrey looks like she's locked up. Is that us? Her? Oh, no, there she is. 14:33:16 I'm bringing over Amyer. That's okay. 14:33:22 Okay. Next up on our agenda is kind of our ongoing item, the discussion of the American Legion emergency. 14:33:31 Julia, and I think we're the only Housing Fund Board members at the Coalition yesterday, so I'll give a little bit of an update and Julia, I'd welcome any any additional. 14:33:40 Color or corrections from you. 14:33:42 I I think, overall it's going well, there's always hiccups as we kind of start something new, even if it looks just like the old elizabeth. 14:33:52 Stevens. The shelter was at the at the Coalition meeting, as well as. 14:33:57 So at least one of the residents, and we we talked about. 14:34:01 3 items that are kind of coming up. 14:34:05 One is a concern that some residents had, with the release of information. 14:34:10 And I think we had a good conversation about. You know there's the only addition to the release of information was. 14:34:17 The American Legion, which really wants to know if folks are exited out. 14:34:22 Julia and others had some good suggestions for modifying that to make it. 14:34:27 Clear what information was being shared, under what circumstances. 14:34:32 To whom, and also maybe. 14:34:35 Setting it aside from as a separate document from some of the other releases of information that are voluntary to engage with services, and such like, that. 14:34:45 There's also. 14:34:48 I mean. 14:34:49 What I would add is that they point to the American request of information from people is that they want to be able to share the names. 14:34:58 Of anybody who's been evicted with their bartenders. 14:35:01 The bartenders have to sign a confidentiality statement. 14:35:04 There's nothing in bartender rule that says this is appropriate. 14:35:09 Right. So it's we'll we'll get a check in on that. We still will continue to have shelter meetings every every 2 weeks while Maggie is sleeping in tent outside the shelter because she won't sign this, and this turns out to be illegal. So. 14:35:25 Yeah, you know. I hope they deal with it quickly, or you know I'm still in con conversation, of course. Heather is out of on vacation or something so 14:35:34 But bayside team responsive, and I think. 14:35:38 Viola, who was there from Holycap, was assist, you know, and gave some good suggestion as well as Eden, who is with you to helping a a advocate for the rights of the the residents. So. 14:35:49 Feel like we're on the right track is one of those things that you know good intentions. 14:35:53 Run a foul of what the best practice is, and I think they're working that out. 14:35:56 The second item we talked about was the food pastor Melanie Jackson is coordinating that, and I know she was meeting yesterday at 3 Pm. With the shelter manager Elizabeth Stevens. 14:36:08 To come up with a system. 14:36:11 To basically create a kind of a Google sheets of sign ups and everything. I think they're planning on starting. 14:36:16 Food service at earlier than normal. So in early September they want to start getting a meal every night. 14:36:23 Provided, you know, cooked at the. 14:36:25 At the commercial kitchen. There, with a variety of faith based and community groups kind of signing up for days on a regular, on a regular rotation. They also want to. Make sure there's a sack lunch to to set off the folks when they they leave in the morning. 14:36:51 Forget exactly how much, somewhere between 2 and $5,000 in the budget that is reimbursed, and I'm reimbursable. But a forward paid budget. 14:36:59 For food to offset that in kind donation of food that we're counting on is the primary mode. So there is. They do have resources at this point that they can use to address that issue. 14:37:19 And then the other question that we addressed, that we really addressed. That was asked, and we considered was what the referral process was, how do folks get into the shelter? Referrals are totally open. They were kind of restricted to referrals from healthcare agencies, and and you know the law enforcement and such for a couple of days, but now they're taking referrals from any. 14:37:42 Social Service agency, or you. It's a new person can show up. 14:37:47 Between 7 and 8 Pm. To get into the shelter, and then 14:37:53 Residents that have an existing history that don't have to go through all the paperwork again. 14:37:58 Control, you know, between 8 and 10. 14:38:00 Upload later. 14:38:02 So those were the things that we talked about at the sheltered Coalition meeting. I think it's positive, you know. Not that it wasn't always a tension, free conversation, but I think everyone showed a lot of grace and. 14:38:13 And how they manage the conversation. So I thought it was a positive meeting. 14:38:16 Good thing to add, Julia. No, I agree. 14:38:22 I'm glad to hear residents are participating. Yeah, I mean, really, honestly, thanks to Julia finding space at the recovery. 14:38:31 Meetings now has a in person participation at the recovery. So then, next time Ryan and I are meeting in Chief. I'm gonna learn how to access their out. I don't know how to use now, but we're gonna make sure I know how to cook things up, know where the wires are, and. 14:38:47 And I feel bad for, and I'll be able to type notes which I didn't do yesterday, which is why I see my notes you're getting when I get them typed. 14:38:58 And I I did feel sort of bad just. 14:39:02 Kind of restricting the conversation just to the shelter conversation. But you know. 14:39:06 Well. 14:39:10 Yeah, it is what it is. It is what it is. 14:39:22 So ghost. 14:39:23 Okay next up, we have a Grant recipient update. I guess. I think we have only cap. And I'm wondering if you can try to promote Viola to give us. 14:39:34 A brief qualitative update on the the 3 Grants that we had the emergency shelter grant. Of course we've talked about that already. The Haynes Street cottage grant and the possible Brown village grants, and we're really looking just to get kind of a qualitative report supporting the you know the quantitative reports that that we get on on the regular. 14:39:53 As part of the contract. 14:39:57 So I probably should get into this meeting too. 14:40:03 I would also be interested to hear funding for phase 3 Council. 14:40:11 Oh, yeah. 14:40:15 I'm ready to bring over that the 105,004 phase 3, right? And that's just for operation and phase. Okay. 14:40:22 This is for the development of the. 14:40:24 Right. 14:40:36 You guys both have to approve. I tried to, and then it just crashed Zoom. So I have to get back in. 14:40:44 Shows you're still there. 14:40:45 Oh, really. 14:40:49 It's in the cloud. 14:40:50 I'm in the cloud. 14:40:54 Okay, there I am. 14:40:56 Hello! Everybody! 14:40:58 Hello! 14:41:00 Hello, so let's see, I have some information. I have a few numbers, and then 14:41:08 Just to kick this off, and just really quickly, just to give a little bit of background of myself. 14:41:15 I. 14:41:16 Have been doing direct service for about 24 years. I started in corrections, and I was a Federal corrections counselor to operations manager of a work release in Seattle. 14:41:29 And then 14:41:31 After moving here, worked at Serenity House and worked my way up from family shelter to operations manager. I was the. 14:41:43 Wow! We really picked a part and put together entry into what it is now. An inclusive meeting of all providers. And you know, while the lead hosts it. Everybody has a say at the table, and can advocate for their their people. 14:42:02 And that's something that I'm hoping to kind of bring here, and also to join our coordinated entries between the counties. I have a meeting that had to be cancelled. Today. They rescheduled, but. 14:42:15 I will be meeting with Serenity House to find ways that we can work together, because there's often people who are maybe homeless in. 14:42:26 Clown County get housing here in Jefferson County, either through a voucher, and they still need assistance with moving or deposit paid, or vice versa. 14:42:34 And rather than having somebody call and go through a rigorous appointment system or longer. Wait list. I'm hoping that we can shrink that time, so we can provide more immediate assistance and work together. 14:42:47 You know Peninsula wide honestly, because our folks travel quite a bit. 14:42:52 So there are folks already coming in who I recognize. So 14:42:59 And we have a lot of different housing services we offer among them. 14:43:03 Is our Haynes Street cottages, so I believe these were built in 1,941. 14:43:10 They still have a knob and 2 electrical system. 14:43:15 We in those units? There's 8 cabins. 14:43:18 We have about 31 people that have been served. We have numerous partners that are involved, that utilize the cottages, including. 14:43:26 Dbh discovery. Behavioral health. 14:43:30 Dove houses. Use them in the past, and then we have 2 that we manage, that we've used for youth housing as well as 14:43:39 Transitional housing for anybody who would qualify. They are. 14:43:43 Really small, about 4 to 500 square foot cabins. 14:43:47 With 2 bedrooms, a shared living space, and a shared kitchen. 14:43:55 But using them for so. 14:43:57 We are currently doing part of the funds. We have been using it for a lot of the repairs. 14:44:04 The insurance that that's needed. And we really need a capital needs assessment done because it is so old and there may be repairs that we need to do to update it. It will kind of determine the future of those cottages. 14:44:21 So they are great use, because the being able to provide transitional housing, we don't have one of the things that I would love to do with them. 14:44:30 We do not have family shelter that I know of outside of dB. Shelters. 14:44:35 And if I could find a way to create family shelters out of those cabins, I would absolutely love to. 14:44:42 And you know. 14:44:44 Within that, finding some options where people can enter shelter, and then have that if they, you know, if they meet certain criteria, turn that shelter into transitional housing for them. 14:44:54 It will shrink the amount of people that we can help in shelters. But shelter stays have rival. 14:45:02 Transitional housing stays which is up to 2 years. 14:45:05 So with a with a serious lack of housing stock. I think it's important. We find places that that. 14:45:12 Parents and children can go besides their cars, or having to move away from family and friends, and all of the resources out of county. 14:45:22 As for oh, I'm sorry. 14:45:25 Know if I heard Mike. 14:45:25 No questions, sorry. 14:45:27 Okay. 14:45:27 And then, as for Caswell Brown village phase 2. 14:45:32 So I have most of the funds. 14:45:37 That have been paid up until I kind of stepped into this role in June. 14:45:42 Have been used just to maintain the insurance and the utilities. Moving forward. 14:45:48 I am. We have a Pu building on site that has a bathroom, a little kitchenette, and many offices. 14:45:56 My hope is to create a community area and service area. I should be getting an estimate on getting it plumed tomorrow. 14:46:05 So that'll be. 14:46:06 Part of where the funds go, and in making this, you know, a a. 14:46:11 A safe and healing place for people to go and rest, and possibly have meetings to meet with public health or their advocates, and really create. 14:46:21 Bring the services in, rather than have people using their precious resources to go out and get those services. 14:46:28 I already have a housing case manager who is more than happy to come and work on site. 14:46:33 And help manage coordinated entry right there on site, which is huge. 14:46:39 The other thing that we are doing. One of what's going to be a large expense is going to be removing old. 14:46:47 And broken down. Rvs that people are no longer using. We right now have 3 on site, that we have notices on. 14:46:55 And it would be quite costly. 14:46:57 To get these move. They are not in any condition that I would. 14:47:02 Give to another person. 14:47:03 We do have one on site that we're going to be cleaning out to provide for somebody to come in and use. 14:47:13 And let's see the other thing is a couple of things that I'm starting, and I would offer an invite to the Housing Fund Board. Not this month, but the following month. This will be the 1st time we're doing it. I'm doing an ice cream social tomorrow. 14:47:29 Where the community can get to know me. 14:47:32 And I am going to make this as much of a co-OP as I possibly can. I would like them to participate and be able to be part of the communication, the and the planning of the site. 14:47:46 And just, you know, help us. 14:47:47 Keep things in order, and you know, also help me hire people. 14:47:53 Why shouldn't they have a say on who we're bringing on site. 14:47:57 To look after them. On top of that my hope. 14:47:59 I have about 4 applications. Now, I want to hire some people from this site. 14:48:05 It's an unofficial job training, but they would actually all the training that I offer my full time staff. 14:48:11 And that would include. 14:48:13 Trauma informed de-escalation. Bloodborne pathogen, Cpr. 1st aid. So what they would get they would join our housing team. 14:48:22 As with all the training and all the meetings. 14:48:25 And the board there that I hope to create. I hope if I have enough interest enough ice cream and enough cookies we will have a functioning board. On site. 14:48:37 And hopefully, if I can convince our new Ed to have one of the members of Cbb on the only cap board. 14:48:45 So I believe that. 14:48:48 Choice is imperative in giving people room to grow and find their own stability. Most times people know what they need. They really don't need me telling them. 14:49:00 But they do need people that are willing to come and give them the resources that they need, and you know, build the trust that they may have lost with a lot of systems. 14:49:13 Yeah. 14:49:11 That's really that's great to hear, Viola. It's bringing a smile to Amy's face, which is, you know, hard to do. I think, even a hard smile. That's that's easier to do. 14:49:20 Yeah, I'm I'm super excited, but the offer is we're going to do an ice cream social once a month, and I would love to invite you to the next one. 14:49:30 And to get to know the folks there. 14:49:34 That would be great. And you can just shoot an email back to Carolyn, and she can distribute it to the Housing Fund Board and make sure that every member gets it so. 14:49:40 Yeah. 14:49:41 We definitely appreciate that. I don't know as you were coming on. If you heard Vicki's question about Brown, it's kind of a little bit out of the. 14:49:48 Scope of this, but just wondering how the funding for the phase 3 emergency housing is going. 14:49:55 Okay? So we had an appropriations. Ask for the remainder of the funding. The match that we needed to get become fully funded. 14:50:05 And move forward. 14:50:07 Congressman Kilmer came to us and stated that our 14:50:12 Was it our 2.5? Ask. 14:50:16 Would be granted 250,000. 14:50:20 And. 14:50:21 At at that point. 14:50:24 The administrative ask of those monies may be, may overburden of what we. 14:50:32 What we gain from it. 14:50:33 And so he did say that he would push. 14:50:38 He would push it towards Cantwell. We are on Cantwell as well. I don't know what that's going to mean, but he will reiterate that we do need the additional funding. 14:50:49 My hope is to eventually bring in. 14:50:53 A. I talked to our consulting. 14:50:56 And these people would be eligible, for individuals would be eligible for 14:51:01 Fcs, very likely. 14:51:03 And it is to bring in some medical respite beds for people who are homeless. There are a lot of people in our community. I've talked to one just today. 14:51:11 Who are unable to get surgeries a very necessary, and they they exist in pain and and. 14:51:20 Increasing Trauma. 14:51:23 Because they have no place to recover. 14:51:24 And we were very successful in setting one up in Column County. 14:51:29 We were given 200,000 of Arba funds. So this is just for 4 rooms. But we made the rooms. Individual made them as cozy as possible, got donated hospital beds from Hospice. 14:51:41 And 14:51:44 I think at. 14:51:46 Of the 200,000 we were given for 2 years. Within our 1st year we saved 196,000 in er costs. 14:51:54 Alone. 14:51:55 It is well worth it. For us to invest in our people this way. 14:52:00 And to give them a safe and peaceful place, where they can rest and heal. 14:52:05 But it is also important that our funds, the funds that I would seek for something like that. 14:52:10 Would have to be pretty flexible. I was able, with the Arpa funds. 14:52:15 To really meet the need where it's at, and especially in our rural area, it's extremely important. We were able to create 2 rooms in our second year, make them double occupancy. 14:52:26 And the people that entered those double occupancy rooms, or sometimes 2 people that had a need. And they, you know, worked well as roommates. 14:52:35 In other cases we had sisters living in a car taking care of each other, and both very sick, and we were able to bring the sisters in together because they would not go alone, and in another case we had 14:52:46 People who are living with their partners on the street had been there for a very long time, and to leave a partner in that kind of a situation is extremely traumatic. And there's all kinds of research that shows when they have a partner with them. People heal faster, and they don't feel as much pain. 14:53:04 So. 14:53:05 Great. 14:53:05 That is my hope. 14:53:06 I have ideas and dreams. 14:53:10 Ellie, you're aware of our Behavioral Health Advisory Committee here in Jefferson County. 14:53:14 Yes. 14:53:21 Okay. 14:53:29 Okay. 14:53:30 Possible funding source for that. 14:53:32 Thank you. 14:53:39 I think that is all I have for now. Is there any questions I can answer. 14:53:45 Questions for Viola. 14:53:49 Vicki. 14:53:51 Well 14:53:53 So. 14:53:54 I think it's come up before. 14:53:58 In our discussions here at the Housing Board is where the role of the. 14:54:05 Consolidate and grant continuum care provider. 14:54:09 Intersects with what we do here at the housing board, trying to think. 14:54:14 Of looking at means from an systemic level. 14:54:18 And so it's kind of been a little bit difficult to really get somewhere with that, because. 14:54:25 We don't have a designated person to talk to. 14:54:31 Since Audrey left Holy Cow. She was participating with us in the. 14:54:38 Data and needs assessment. So I look forward to making connection with you and seeing if we can get. 14:54:45 Someone from your staff to participate. And what's kind of like a roundabout discussion. 14:54:53 Of needs at the system level. 14:54:56 Yeah, we're here. 14:54:56 Oh, I would love to this is 14:54:59 Having moved from. 14:55:01 Direct service for so long into a place where, you know, I can think and work as a part of a community, and resolving a really big and complex issue. I think it's very important. 14:55:13 Because it won't be just one of us ever. 14:55:19 Great. 14:55:20 Thanks for that. Any other questions or comments for my room. 14:55:26 One other topic that you know you didn't address was the 14:55:31 American Legion emergency shelter. I don't know if you wanna speak to that, and I know there's like unspent dollars in that, and I think are just unspent, and are going back into the kitty. But. 14:55:41 Do you? Do you have anything that you want to. 14:55:43 Share with us about the past operation, or the transition, or or anything. 14:55:49 I don't. 14:55:50 Truly I don't have a lot. I was. I was coming in right as things were closing. 14:55:57 And moving from one pot to the other, and. 14:56:01 To be honest, my focus was finding all of my grants which I have a. 14:56:05 But within our. 14:56:07 Continue of care. I've got about 22. 14:56:09 And they all expire and renew at all different times. 14:56:14 But I'm hoping we were able to support the transition as much as much as possible. I know there was a couple of times and. 14:56:24 We tried to help troubleshoot. 14:56:26 But I'm more than 14:56:28 I'm actually very happy to see that base. I came in. 14:56:33 And we have somebody operating there, and that they took on Elizabeth. I thought she was. I was able to meet her, and I think she's wonderful. 14:56:42 A lot of the folks down. I've I've stopped in and talked to some of the folks at the shelter when it was under us. 14:56:48 In my lab in my 1st month, and they were very. 14:56:52 They very much appreciated Elizabeth in particular, and how she treated people there. 14:56:59 So. 14:56:59 Yeah. 14:57:01 Okay, well, thank you for that. 14:57:03 One last call any other questions for Viola. 14:57:07 Okay, well, 14:57:09 And phrase aren't questions so. 14:57:12 I'll be there. 14:57:15 Okay, well, thank you so much for making time today and and letting us know how these are going, and we will be in touch soon, and we'll let you get on with your day. 14:57:24 Alright. Thank you. 14:57:26 We look forward to ice cream, too. Yeah, let us know that social will be there. 14:57:32 Maybe not. Quorum. 14:57:34 Love to take take sections who likes warm ice. 14:57:39 I'm lactose, intolerant. I can go. Did a completely different times. Fine. 14:57:43 Okay. 14:57:45 I wonder if that comes into calculation if it's an ice cream, social. 14:57:51 Okay. 14:57:53 Onward me to committee updates. 14:57:57 And let's see committee assignments. I didn't do my research on. Well, I left that on there just in case there was a new representative for the city. 14:58:05 Oh, yeah, I think we're still kind of the new ones appointed. And you guys, you gotta sort through everything again, or we're just kind of reassuring depends on who it is. Strong match with this committee or Gotcha. 14:58:20 So should I take it off until certain time, then, until. 14:58:23 Number. 14:58:25 Well, so we're making the decision at our August 5th meeting, and so they should be. 14:58:32 Okay, yeah. Let's leave it on for us. Wait a second. Yeah, yeah. 14:58:36 Okay, data needs assessment. Any updates. 14:58:40 Yeah, sure so we are. Continuing on with our 3rd 14:58:48 I believe, at 8. 14:58:52 Needs an assessment. 14:58:54 Discussions that are focused on particular population groups, and our next one. 14:59:00 In August will be domestic violence, sexual assault. 14:59:07 Sex workers. 14:59:09 Looking at that population. 14:59:12 Viola talked about, referred to. So it's very particular needs. 14:59:21 If you, if anybody has any suggestions for people to invite in terms of service providers to that 14:59:31 It would be greatly appreciated if you could just send me a message on. Get an invitation after and the other thing was 14:59:41 I think that's important is, we had a presentation. 14:59:46 At our last meeting from Louis Sierra. 14:59:51 Who is a staff person with Brockwest and. 14:59:57 Rock, Rc. Stands for Resident. 15:00:01 And it's in the notes from the I think it's 7 12 meeting, but 15:00:09 Just to note that I think this is a really important model to look at and assess. 15:00:19 Is. The idea is that the residents are organized to form. 15:00:24 A cooperative. They own the land, and then they convert over to. 15:00:32 Hey! 15:00:35 But they can land on. 15:00:37 Land. 15:00:39 Anyway, they have a. 15:00:41 A share of the cooperative, and they're. 15:00:45 Granted a use of the. 15:00:48 Space. So it's not ramp. 15:00:50 But anyway, it stabilizes. 15:00:53 Please. 15:00:54 No, it's there's some other. 15:00:56 But anyway, the it stabilizes the cost per month. 15:01:01 They end up, probably starting a little bit higher, because there's a purchase price that they have to pay off over the long term. But it's stabilizes it, and it's they've done these conversions. 15:01:16 In Washington and all throughout the Northwest, all throughout the United States. And have been highly successful. 15:01:23 So like 3. 15:01:25 Anyway, the. 15:01:28 4 quarters is going up. How much it's going for sale? No. But they were brought in a bed, and they were rejected as being too low. 15:01:39 So louise did say that they're asking price at this point would mean. 15:01:45 And exorbitant increase in rent. 15:01:49 So not only that is the owner. Non. He owns. 15:01:56 4 other mobile home parks and column. 15:02:01 And 2 2 port Angeles, anyway. So there's quite a few. 15:02:09 And they sent us a list also. I haven't forwarded it yet. 15:02:17 Of all of the parks that are in Jefferson County, and their sizes. 15:02:24 So what we would like to do offer him is to help. 15:02:32 Some support and organizing a public information meeting for both the residents of all Mobile home and for 15:02:49 Successful. 15:02:51 Basically, people buy the land for themselves and then manage the community right? So. 15:02:58 And this model has also been applied with subsidized housing that is going into aspiration when the Litc funds disappear. You know. 15:03:13 You know, period time. So that's it's that's an important thing to look at, I think, considering. 15:03:19 Almost half of our subsidized will disappear. 15:03:25 Subsidies will expire in the next. 15:03:28 20 years. So I think it's really an exciting conversation to have. I think it is something that we should take to the community. And I mean, that's also, you know, we left. 15:03:40 15, not $90 on the table that could potentially be used to bond, to help. 15:03:48 Purchase that land as well. There's all sorts of different methods. Yes, we we know that there was a 15:03:56 That we were. 15:03:57 Sources of grants. 15:04:00 So he. They have a very well thought out with 2 different funding streams. They're very tied into this. 15:04:08 The State funding sources, and the State Department of Commerce, actually, because of the new law, notifies them immediately when anything comes up for sale. 15:04:20 So that the right at 1st refusal, so like at the. 15:04:24 Let's just say, for the sake of argument, 1 million dollars! I know. I'm sure it's much more than that. But 15:04:30 So if the app, the. 15:04:32 Owner is asking 1 million dollars, and the community offers $500,000. There's no obligation to take it, but if they offer the asking price. Then it's like they get. 15:04:43 Yes. 15:04:46 So and so they may come back. He may not find a buyer at his current price. 15:04:54 But the best thing to do is be prepared for any potential sale. I mean, this is 110 units. 15:05:02 And I'm sure many of the people there cannot afford. 15:05:08 I'm pretty strong re increase. So you get sucked into it because you bought a 20 or 50, or even 100,000 house that's on the property, and it's very challenging to move. Yeah, you know, it takes like 6 months. It's a county. 15:05:27 So it would be great also. Maybe we can. 15:05:32 Dovetail with this with a community conversation, I think, being a great community. Yeah. So I will pass that on to Louise, and I'm sure that he would. 15:05:44 Be more than happy to talk to any electives or staff. You know, one on one and he's a great guy. He lives in Adl. 15:05:56 And has a lot of experience in this. 15:06:00 You know, just. 15:06:02 Being able to work with low income populations to provide housing, security and stability, and what they do in the training they provide is just. 15:06:12 Awesome. 15:06:13 So. 15:06:16 Yeah, I'm sorry I had to miss. I. 15:06:18 Sounds like a great conversation. 15:06:23 Yeah. So I think that's my report. Back. 15:06:27 I will note just before. 15:06:30 Through the little bit of over somebody else. 15:06:33 That I think it's important for these. 15:06:37 To provide notes. 15:06:39 You know, even if it's just short, and what their actions are. 15:06:43 So that we know that they're tracking towards Julia. Can you make sure, when you send out the shelter coalition notices Carolyn to, so we can get those distributed to the Housing Fund Board. 15:06:57 Yes, and we have kind of deputized the shelter coalition as as part of this, and just make sure that we came back on. 15:07:05 And then I I think that also applies to coordinated advisory. 15:07:11 Okay, any questions for Vicki. I just note at the last meeting. How the on Board members did say that they would like all Housing Fund Committees, except for coordinated entry to share their notes amongst members. 15:07:26 Sometimes. Yeah, except so we we excluded. 15:07:30 Coordinated Entry. 15:07:32 One. 15:07:33 Lot of private information. 15:07:41 Client. 15:07:36 I guess a high overview wouldn't hurt. Yeah. Well, I'm on it now. And I actually. 15:07:42 Details shouldn't be discussed at the Advisory Committee meeting that should just be overseeing the process. 15:07:48 But there are 2 separate meetings that have been happening, and I think there's been some confusion even among the members. So. 15:07:55 That's 1 thing. Well. 15:07:57 Work on. 15:07:59 Is that a. 15:08:00 Board of this group, or is that a board that we sit on outside this group? I'm I'm confused by it. 15:08:08 Oh! 15:08:07 It's not center on it and be. 15:08:08 But. 15:08:09 So they were simultaneously 2 groups created, one through this group to fulfill the guidelines for the county. To make sure an advisory committee was established. At the same time a group of. 15:08:23 At the beginning a hundred percent membership started meeting to try to distill a case coordination. 15:08:30 Meeting for the providers in the community. 15:08:34 Very valuable. 15:08:36 Same people, because. 15:08:38 Gist of the situation, but I think based on a. 15:08:45 Meeting I had with 15:08:47 But all this week I think. 15:08:49 It's time to go back in and kind of. 15:08:52 Re-clarify. But any notes that happened at the Advisory committee should really just be about the. 15:08:58 The process. 15:09:00 You know how things are going, policy and procedure. So. 15:09:04 Sharing notes from that should be fine. 15:09:07 The. 15:09:08 Case coordination meeting really doesn't fall under the purview of this board. Anyways. 15:09:15 I was thinking that maybe that's why we were saying no notes from that is because of that. 15:09:20 It wasn't ours, and that that part isn't ours. 15:09:24 Right. 15:09:25 Hmm. 15:09:26 So we need a new name for. 15:09:28 That group, maybe. 15:09:29 We're a coordinator and entry advisory panel. 15:09:32 Yes. 15:09:32 Well, no, okay. So I'll interject real quick. The coordinate. A coordinated Advisory Board was created by the Housing Fund Board on April 26, th 2023, and appointed a slate of members. 15:09:45 We then learned that within that membership they had added new members. 15:09:50 And it kind of got away from us. So that is the board. So I don't know. And then the the bigger question is, if you have formed another committee. 15:10:00 Who's the oversight of that committee? 15:10:02 Because the Coordinate and Entry Advisory Board should be reporting to the Housing Fund Board. 15:10:07 At something. But if this new committee is forming and they're going to do a lot of work. 15:10:13 I think there should be an entity overseeing that. 15:10:23 Yeah. 15:10:16 That doesn't have to be us, I mean, who would it be, though, is what my question sounds like. The service agencies are going to the case manager. I don't know, Audrey, you want to answer it with that. 15:10:25 The case. Coordination meeting. 15:10:29 So is has been led by Olyc as the lead agency. But there's data sharing agreements in place between all those organizations. They've been working on that with commerce. So it, that's. 15:10:40 I think there's just been some confusion among the members. 15:10:44 Of the 2 groups. 15:10:46 The purpose and. 15:10:49 Origin of. 15:10:50 Each as a separate. 15:10:52 Meeting, because. 15:10:53 Things have just been very new, and a lot of the conversations really are. 15:10:57 You know there's not a lot of robust. 15:10:59 Client. 15:11:01 Coordination happening, because the system's not really coordinated yet. So. 15:11:07 Any. 15:11:07 Yeah, maybe Viola can help with that. Yeah. 15:11:09 And anything that is a part of this body has some other guidelines that has to follow. 15:11:17 With public records and stuff. So we should be careful of that. 15:11:21 Well, that's part of what we really need to clarify. And I think I mean, I was planning to give an update. If it's okay to just. 15:11:30 Had fabulous. 15:11:31 Please. 15:11:30 We're talking about it, anyway. So we did. 15:11:33 I reached out to Viola. 15:11:35 And. 15:11:37 We did set up a. 15:11:39 The next meeting of the Advisory Committee. 15:11:43 Unfortunately, it's at a date and time that I won't be able to make it so. I made a separate time to meet with her this week. 15:11:51 And I think at that. 15:11:54 Committee meeting. There needs to be some. 15:11:57 Re-clarification of roles, oversight. 15:12:01 And objectives, and. 15:12:04 I thought there was some back and forth in this meeting. 15:12:08 About whether or not. 15:12:11 That. 15:12:13 Board has to. 15:12:15 How they need to record and. 15:12:20 Make public or not. 15:12:22 Their meetings. I'm I don't know who I need to coordinate with, so that I can bring the best information back to that group, but. 15:12:33 Is Julio. 15:12:33 It does already. 15:12:34 One or 3. 15:12:35 So. 15:12:37 This the one that's under us. 15:12:40 Legally, is no different than the data needs assessment group. And no, we do not record those meetings. I take notes, but we don't record them. 15:12:50 I don't think you've been to one of these yet. 15:12:53 This was just scheduled. 15:12:53 Oh, I have not. My 1st one will be on July 31.st 15:12:57 Well, and here's part of the confusion as well is, you know, this. 15:13:02 Body appointed membership to that Board. 15:13:05 But when I was on it in my role at Ole. 15:13:09 We never had a presence. 15:13:11 From any Housing Fund Board. 15:13:13 Member. 15:13:15 Except for occasionally Peggy. 15:13:18 But Peggy was also representing the 15:13:23 Peninsula, housing authority in those meetings, at least in. 15:13:27 Spirit, and so. 15:13:30 It was very, you know. I never really had a whole. 15:13:34 Robust understanding of what our obligations were to report back to the fund, or how that was going. I don't know how Peggy was representing what was happening in those meetings, but at that time it felt like a group of. 15:13:47 Providers and stakeholders, meeting. 15:13:50 So if now me and Julia need to be the ones. 15:13:55 Make sure that these meetings happen in the correct way. 15:14:00 That I would just love to get a little clarification. 15:14:02 Around. 15:14:04 What that means. 15:14:06 Well, it's something that we're required to have in our 5 Year Plan. 15:14:10 And that. 15:14:11 So I think that. 15:14:14 Getting those rules are clear. It feels like we should maybe. 15:14:17 Look back. I see if I can put that in our our action last time to not take notes at these. See that? Go coordinate entry advisory board, and maybe change that to have notes right? Because I think. 15:14:33 And then and then all of these, like a little one pager of the mandate of the of the particular Advisory Board, makes a lot of sense, as you say, Audrey, so I think. 15:14:42 For example. 15:14:44 First, st second. 15:14:43 I think it's really appropriate. 15:14:46 That. 15:14:48 Viola participate in the board now. 15:14:50 How? Who appoints? How do we get her pointed to the board? How does that process work? I I don't know. But she's planning to be. 15:14:58 At that meeting, and she sent out the invite for it. So. 15:15:02 Was different than our other boards, and olc is the coordinated, coordinated coordination of care. You know. 15:15:09 Lead has a role. So yeah, Vicki. 15:15:12 Yeah. 15:15:16 Yeah. The the reason this came to my attention to begin with, was a buyer plan, right? Which said we needed to establish. 15:15:26 Coordinated Entry Advisory Board. I don't think there's any requirements. 15:15:31 Under hers, whose purview it is. 15:15:34 But the other part of that was that was really clear was that the policies and procedures needed to be established. 15:15:44 Yeah. 15:15:42 So that it wasn't just establishing the board it was going through, and that was the question about whether that was happening or not. 15:15:53 Well. 15:15:53 And 15:15:56 Yeah. 15:15:55 So that's how it came to my attention. 15:15:58 Yeah. 15:15:58 And I recognize the need for confidential case management. 15:16:05 I think that's the problem. I think when we kind of do need to know some way. 15:16:12 How you're how the coordinated Advisory Board, if it's doing policies and procedures. 15:16:20 How it's progressing with those. 15:16:22 And how what's happening. 15:16:25 Right. 15:16:23 So. I welcome this conversation about. 15:16:29 Clarifying roles. I think you're right on. I agree with that. 15:16:33 So the Board was created to fulfill the obligation set to the county in the coordinated guidelines through Department of Commerce. 15:16:42 So just creating it. 15:16:44 According to the guidelines, fulfills that obligation. 15:16:47 But it seems like. 15:16:49 Based on how this board needs to operate. The committee needs to stay under. 15:16:53 The purview. 15:16:54 Of the Housing Fund Board, which comes along with some of its own. 15:17:01 Requirements. 15:17:02 So. 15:17:03 That's what I'm trying to. 15:17:06 Do we need to create our own little set of. 15:17:09 Bylaws or something. So everyone understands. 15:17:13 Okay. 15:17:13 In the group what it means. If you're if you leave your position, if you need a replacement to represent your organization, do they need to come back to this meeting and request to be appointed. 15:17:24 How you know, how do we? How does that have to work? And I'm not familiar with how. 15:17:29 Other committees. 15:17:31 Under this Board, have. 15:17:32 Operated in the past, or need to operate. 15:17:34 Kind of a unique committee from our other committees. But, Carolyn, I was, gonna say, real quick when I had this idea to our legal counsel about this coordinated. 15:17:41 Coordinated Entry Advisory Board is because Peggy has said that this board had governing documents, and there would be policies and stuff like that. They would create. 15:17:51 And so it seemed to me like it maybe needs to be under the umbrella of the Commissioner's office as a committee that is subject to Opma, and that was a question I had sent out to our legal counsel, and I still don't have answer back on. But currently it resides under Housing Fund Board, but because of the the work that this Board is doing, it almost feels like it should. 15:18:11 Be more formalized. But that's the question I don't have answered yet. 15:18:15 Okay. 15:18:17 I can. I do think that it's it's 1 of those boards that we we needed to create. And, as you say, creating it was really the obligation. But we also recognize that. 15:18:36 4. 15:18:28 Coordinating our coordinating, coordinating entry. Coordinated entry is something that we can really do a better job, and we'll get better outcomes for all. So it's sort of, I think, before we kind of left it in a mandate of the agencies that actually contribute coordinated entry or use this use the system, either directly or indirectly. 15:18:45 I guess I'd. 15:18:47 As a 1st step. I would, I guess, put it forth. 15:18:50 Before this group to see. 15:18:52 Let's see how the the coordinated entry board 15:18:57 Sees its mandate, and what what you guys need to do. But we do need to figure out on this side. And Carolyn, I can work with staff. 15:19:07 To figure out what would be the appointment? Whether do we get a recommendation from. 15:19:14 You'll get a recommendation from the coordinated Advisory Board and then appoint it like we do in many other boards or in this group. We've just. We've accepted the nomination from the community. And really, just I don't think we even had people fill out the volunteer form, do we, Carolyn? 15:19:38 We were. It was under the umbrella of the Housing Fund Board, but, like I said, it's kind of grown, and we've heard that the members were appointing new members within that group, and it kind of got a little too big so I think. 15:19:52 It definitely needs a conversation on how to start fresh and. 15:19:56 Really set some guidelines, I think, yeah. 15:19:59 We created it, but we didn't do a good job of creating it. 15:20:03 This. 15:20:03 I said, There you are! And then there it was, and then it tried to do things on its own, and. 15:20:08 Sometimes you need to slap some parameters around something. 15:20:11 My name is. 15:20:12 Well, and now that Viola is here. 15:20:14 And going to be integral just because. 15:20:17 Holy cap is still the lead, and of course she also has a lot of wealth of experience and successfully helping to build Ce. And county. It's a great time to do that reset. 15:20:28 So. 15:20:31 Death. 15:20:31 Again, like I'm happy to bring to that group whatever. 15:20:36 Kind of information and parameters I need to. I just want to make sure that I'm. 15:20:42 It's pretty blatant. 15:20:42 Sending the right. 15:20:45 Expectation. 15:20:44 I wanted to bring us back 1st a report on on how. 15:20:49 How it wants to. 15:20:53 Manage itself at this point, I think, would be a good 1st step, and we'll we'll look at the. 15:20:57 Kind of top down. 15:20:59 Architecture that we should put in place to make sure that we're consistent with our own policies, and we're not running on this side. 15:21:07 You're like. 15:21:09 So as far as membership on it. 15:21:12 Did the housing task force say, like. 15:21:15 Holy cap and bay and Bla, and they decided who would attend in their. 15:21:20 Slot. Can't we do that? Since most of the people it's not all them I represent this. 15:21:27 I mean we I think we did put on positions for each of the agencies that you representing that agency. Well, at the time. 15:21:40 It 1st started. It was there was names given, but they could choose a staffer to attend in there on their behalf. But there was 2 Housing Fund Board members, one House and 2 Bayside. 15:21:52 At the initial 15:21:54 A slate of members. 15:22:00 So maybe what we can do. 15:22:00 I gotta build, yeah. 15:22:02 It's having. 15:22:04 That that meeting that's happening in a couple of weeks. 15:22:09 We'll make sure that the group discusses kind of looking at those guidelines like, what is the purpose of the group, and what are some objectives that they'd like to work on. 15:22:19 Do they want to have. 15:22:22 X number of members represented from. 15:22:26 X organizations. 15:22:28 Are they okay with that type of membership. 15:22:32 And then we can just bring that back to the housing board next month. 15:22:37 And I'd also throw in there, maybe, as we've talked about on and off. 15:22:42 They wanna be totally independent, too, like we. We started it. And I, you know, that's something that we consider, though we've had. 15:22:48 Indications that isn't quite kosher. But you know. 15:22:51 I think, bringing back the desire of that that body as it exists and is reformulated. 15:22:59 Sure. 15:23:01 Yeah, I would just say that. We at the beginning of the data, needs assessment. 15:23:11 Committee establishment discuss whether we were gonna go through the formal volunteer application processed out. But it's come up again. 15:23:22 So. And it's a conversation that we need to have as well whether people actually submit an application to be on the committee. 15:23:32 Formally. I'm kind of like an open committee kind of person. So people are welcome to come in and discuss. But. 15:23:42 If you have a more formal process, sometimes only see, certain people are empowered to make decisions from that. When we've had an open policy of the Shelter coalition, too, which is another kind of new committee where you know other than not creating a quorum of the Housing Fund Board. So it's yeah. 15:24:01 But it sounds like, but there is responsibilities. I mean, she is sharing the data needs. You were sharing shelter. 15:24:10 But all wealthy. 15:24:12 As a member of this group. So it would be Audrey. 15:24:16 I think, sharing as a member of this group. 15:24:20 Well. 15:24:20 You could get someone else facilitated. 15:24:23 I was. 15:24:24 Appointed the chair when I was working with actually so. 15:24:31 I almost wonder if. 15:24:34 The chair should be Viola, which might make sense as the representative of the C. Hg. Lead Agency. 15:24:42 Yeah, I think that makes sense. That's what we did. 15:24:44 In my mind that makes sense. 15:24:46 Okay. But then, but we're yeah. So we're official representatives of this. 15:24:53 Yes. 15:24:56 Yes. 15:24:53 Is that why you're on it? As an official representative of this. 15:24:57 Okay. 15:24:56 Right now. 15:25:00 I'm switched. 15:25:01 You. 15:25:02 Great. I think I think there's some more clarity than there has been previously. So thank you for taking the lead on this, Audrey, and we'll wait for your report back at the August meeting, and and I know they won't be there actually. But and I think bringing the notes here. 15:25:17 Would be would be helpful, especially I will bring what notes I take. I won't. You know they talk about individuals. 15:25:25 Clients. I'm not gonna run either. The names. 15:25:28 Okay. 15:25:28 It won't come up. 15:25:29 Great 15:25:33 Okay. 15:25:34 Anything else on the coordinated entry Advisory Board. Real quick. I'm heading out in the eagles covering for me. So for the item for the calendaring for the Rfp. She's brought the calendar here, and taking notes for me. But thank you. 15:25:50 Okay, nothing happened with the Community Conversations committee. But we will, I think. We'll split it back up to talk about this rock conversation, and it sounds like a really appropriate group to convene. We've had some community foundation and partnering. I think this is something. 15:26:13 It's it's workforce housing as well, which is definitely the way they're leaning more. So. I I think it's a lot of good nexus there. 15:26:21 The Funding Opportunities Committee has not been operational recently. 15:26:25 Analytics through committee updates. 15:26:30 So unless there's something else on committees, we'll move on to the 5 Year Plan calendaring. And 15:26:37 Vicki and I had a conversation about this, and we really, we do have time. We're ahead of the game right now. We've already done our our number update for the coming year. So. 15:26:49 And then the 5 year update which. 15:26:51 As a reminder. We don't have a separate community, but we're doing that 5 Year Plan here. 15:26:58 And we're. 15:27:01 Probably after our Rfp. Process in the beginning of 2025 digging into it. There's some. 15:27:08 I don't know interesting issues, and do want to go in into that anymore. Vicki, I think it's sort of just 15:27:15 Looking past. The Rp process is when we would start thinking about it again. You want to add, well. 15:27:24 I will only say at this time, is that. 15:27:28 The guidelines, the permanent guidelines, the official guidelines for doing the 5 Year Plan. 15:27:34 We'll be out November, which kinda. 15:27:37 Pause after where we would start our process right. 15:27:42 There is a shift and emphasis in terms of the objectives of the 5 Year plans. 15:27:50 That we need to respond to. 15:27:52 They make a lot more census. So 15:27:58 I don't know if we want to consider simplifying or something, just to make a. 15:28:07 A little bit clearer about where to buy, and so forth. 15:28:12 I think there was some feedback as well. What we were asking about. 15:28:19 Performance measures and 15:28:22 I understand that a concern there, because people don't have immediate access to trying to. 15:28:31 Not all service, provider. 15:28:33 Agencies are not able to. 15:28:36 Actually. 15:28:38 Generate their own performance. And that's kind of. 15:28:43 A capacity problem. We have globally right now. So. 15:28:49 I think we do need some good benchmarks, and that's why I've kind of been pushing on. 15:29:00 And better access at the local level. The data that we have. 15:29:04 Around some of these bigger numbers, like. 15:29:08 Waiting times and links of stay etc, etc. So. 15:29:14 It's an ongoing process of talking to people, and I hope to meet with. 15:29:20 Vinyl on myself in the near future. 15:29:23 To discuss how we can get a better flow of the information at the level. 15:29:30 To form the base of W. Where are we going from? 15:29:34 You know, with this next 5 min plan. 15:29:38 And julia facilitated a conversation that we that we had with Jed from the rock house that did the report on pathways to housing security today as well, and they're eager to come out and kind of talk about this tool that might help us align our 5 Year plan with others as well. I I think that it's 15:29:56 There's, I think, valuable research we can do with the rest of this year kind of concurrently with our Rfp. Process. And then, if we just get started, you know. 15:30:04 After the Rp process and 1st quarter 25. I think we can dive into those questions so. And and that's really what the needs assessments that we've been doing are them to to identify those needs that are. 15:30:19 You know, subpopulation levels. So we can respond better. One thing I will say that we did identify at the last meeting and coming out of our low income workforce housing. 15:30:33 Discussion is, we don't really have a good picture. I think, of what our rental assistance is. 15:30:39 And what some of the barriers are, and where we know that rental assistance and. 15:30:46 You know, housing subsidies programs, or some of the most key interventions for keeping people. 15:30:55 From homelessness. 15:30:57 Yes, and and just providing the kind of. 15:31:01 Housing stability that they need to, you know. 15:31:05 Save the lives. 15:31:07 So. 15:31:08 Yeah. 15:31:09 So I we're gonna try and figure out when to have a conversation. And with who about that? To get a better picture of that. 15:31:19 Because it can be effective intervention in terms of money. 15:31:28 You. They've all dried up. That's mostly that that Covid rental assistance is just. But there's all sorts of other types of rental assistance. There's 10. There's T. Broad. There's she most probably can name one. 15:31:43 But there are, I mean there's a huge. 15:31:47 Variety of programs out there, so that still exists. 15:31:52 Yeah, but it's a lot less during hope. 15:31:56 And and we also know nationally, it's only like one in 4 people who are qualified for rental assistance that actually get it. So. 15:32:07 Okay. 15:32:09 So more to come on that really, after the Rfp. Process, anything else on that schedule people want to discuss now. 15:32:20 Let's look to the 25 rfp, so 15:32:25 Avl. You have the the like. The calendar for the Rp. From last year. Is that what you have? Oh, you have a prospective one for this year. 15:32:43 I I think when we started our Rp. 15:32:46 September. 15:32:47 Think it was September. I guess what I'm wondering we have half of the meeting is taken up already. I'm wondering if we want to open up that Rfp. And address some of the questions 15:33:01 Previously at the August meeting. 15:33:02 For the Rfp. To start the Rp. Process, and September, October. 15:33:09 Got getting a conclusion. In November. 15:33:12 We'll bring it to the Bocc. And getting, you know. 15:33:16 Ratified in by the end of the year. Our goal. 15:33:22 Other Folks, Thoughts on. 15:33:26 Opening up that rmp. 15:33:32 Needs so in so in August, like half the meeting will be. 15:33:40 And the other half of the meeting will be. 15:33:43 The rfp, we could evaluate the rfp, yeah. So just Julia's, I haven't quite. I was gonna talk about it next steps. But yeah, we have invited the the Ruffle house folks and their consultants to come out. 15:33:54 And they're willing to come twice. So the idea in August they come and kind of give an overview of the pathways to housing report. 15:34:02 And then with a subsequent workshop in February March. That's more tailored and more back and forth to help us 15:34:11 Learn how to use this tool, which is not a prescriptive tool by talking to Jed. But it's supposed to kind of help. Different housing plans. Kind of. 15:34:20 Work in similar ways and be aligned. So we don't have this siloing of housing plants and such. So that's the goal with that. And we've we're booking. 15:34:29 You know, 30 min presentation, 30 min question and answer at the August 20 second meeting, and then. 15:34:35 Rp. Potentially Vicki. 15:34:40 Yeah, I did. 15:34:46 Forgot what I was. Gonna say, okay, so. 15:34:51 I have not looked at the Rfp. Yet for a couple months, but 15:34:56 Do we want to like solicit? 15:35:00 Ideas from our applicants. I mean, we could send that email out this week and say, You know. 15:35:06 Are there changes you want to see? We did that last year and made some changes. We could just. 15:35:11 Go through again, assess the effectiveness ourselves and getting the information we want without, you know. Maybe talking about the firm performance measures like Vicki says, and making sure we're not. 15:35:23 I'm creating barriers for smaller organizations. But I guess I'm curious what people would like to work on that. If Julia then. 15:35:31 To see what Viola says about our. 15:35:35 I like her, but for sure. 15:35:38 I mean, I think the other organization sort of repeat whatever they said last year, but I think that she would be different. 15:35:44 Okay. Fresh pair of eyes. 15:35:47 Are you? 15:35:47 I would love a chance to add some comments and maybe make some suggestions. 15:35:52 Having. 15:35:53 Filled it out a couple of times last year. There's definitely some pain points. 15:35:57 Yeah. 15:35:57 I think could be better. 15:35:58 Great. I appreciate that, mark, Audrey. 15:36:02 And so I remembered. I think. 15:36:04 I know we've been doing this regularly is to have updates on the projected, but it might be an appropriate one as well. 15:36:15 You know, because I I think there is big difference between having, you know, sales tax money available for new construction versus operating funds which some. 15:36:30 Yeah. Obligated. Yes. 15:36:32 So. I I think it's been really helpful also to get an idea of what's happening at the State level to augment that so information that might be available. 15:36:44 To the county Commissioners. Yeah, Kate has been really helpful with that on 15:36:51 How much money might be appropriated. 15:36:55 On top of the. 15:36:58 So. 15:36:59 I think that, having that number in front of us. 15:37:02 Going forward. 15:37:07 Yeah. 15:37:08 Cause we actually is backup. But reporting fees are still. 15:37:13 What is the 1st thing you said. 15:37:15 Yeah, once we leave real estate excise tax. Okay, thank you. 15:37:22 Yeah, I think that's great. We can get projections at the next meeting, and we'll invite Judy out to talk about. 15:37:29 Friends are here, the obligated funds, and see if we can't get any more insight into. 15:37:34 Any other backfill the comments or any other State agencies doing. I think that's great. 15:37:38 So we'll get a projection update, and maybe what we can do is send the current Rfp out to the past recipient. Say, we're going to be make updating it at the August meeting. 15:37:53 Make sure that the Housing Fund Board gets it to. So folks like Audrey, that have filled it out in the past, but aren't with that organization, now have an opportunity to. 15:38:01 Really look at it, and maybe put a deadline for external. 15:38:07 Organizations and people to give feedback, you know, a week or so before. So we'll get those. 15:38:13 Suggestions out to the group. 15:38:14 In a timely manner. 15:38:17 Sound, okay. 15:38:20 Yes. 15:38:21 Okay. 15:38:25 And then, you know. 15:38:27 Calendaring wise. We can just. We'll look at the I think that comes at the August meeting, too, but we'll still plan on the kind of the same basic timeline. 15:38:38 Have the Rsvp process. Oh, one question, do we want to incorporate. 15:38:43 Site visits into the application process. 15:38:48 We talked about that. 15:38:52 Have to answer now, if you don't have an opinion yet. But. 15:38:55 I think the deal. 15:38:59 That's my opinion. Yeah. 15:39:03 Okay? Well, we can. We'll add that as as an addendum, just as an idea, we will make any changes before the group has a chance to look at it. 15:39:15 Okay, it looks like we might get down a little early. 15:39:18 To say that, but any other future calendar items, you know, especially for this, the end of you know, and I know it's the middle of summer, but it feels like the end of the year, for our work is is the work is kind of programmed out. You know. We know that the late summer and early fall is really towards the Rp. 15:39:36 Next year we'll start the 5 Year Plan and and so until that Rp process starts, we'll review the Rp start the conversational house, about pathways and housing, plan. 15:39:48 And oh, community conversation, start planning and programming for a conversation about. 15:39:54 What does rock stand for? Resource? Resident own community? I like it. 15:40:00 And on the rsp, I'm happy to. 15:40:03 I'll look at myself. Great, thank you all, and appreciate that. 15:40:09 Okay. 15:40:11 Any anything else for the good of the order? 15:40:14 If everyone's gonna look it up for himself. Could someone please send him the pathway for that. 15:40:19 Yes. 15:40:26 The like. 15:40:24 Inside. Joker. Okay. Alright. 15:40:27 Links are a little bit challenging. So digging through that on the on the county website is. 15:40:32 Hard. 15:40:34 Okay. Great. 15:40:34 You don't know where you're going, and you've just joined the board. For example. 15:40:38 We'll get him the links. 15:40:39 Thank you. 15:40:40 Okay. 15:40:41 One last call anything else for the order. 15:40:45 Alright. Well, we are adjourned your extra 40 min and we will see you on August 22, and we'll start programming a community conversation 15:40:55 So I will reach out to those committee members and schedule a meeting. 15:40:59 I'm sorry, Greg. What's August 20 second. 15:41:02 Does the honor, Dix, our our next regular meeting on August 28.th Oh, I'm sorry. August 28, please. Anytime, I said. 22. Replace that with the 28. You do that. 15:41:12 Button. Sorry. 15:41:13 And making stuff up. Now. 15:41:15 Yeah. Now, okay. 15:41:18 I didn't say it, Greg. 14:29:53 From Amy Howard, Port Townsend to Hosts and panelists: I have to turn my computer on and off again for the speakers to work. I'll be right back.