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BOARD OF JEFFE~{SO~ COUNTY CO~e-IISSIONERS
~~:~ii~~' No. 1 Co~issioner
District No. 2 Co~.missioner
District No. 3 Commissioner
A.H. O'meara
B.G. Brown~ Chairman
Carrol1 H. Hercer
Clerk of the Board Betty J. Teople" Auditl
Engineer Edwin A. Becker~ P.E.
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November 17, 1975
'10:00 a.m. Meeting called to order by Chairman B. G. Brown with all members present.
Hearing: Vacation of County' Road: aocess road to Pleasant Tides. Engineer Becker submitted
a letter recomll}ending vacation of access road. Noone' appeared to speak against the prop::>sed
vacation. Moved by Commissioner O'Meara, seconded by C:>mmissi::>ner Mercer to approve
and sign Res:>lutbn No. 77 -7 5, Order of Vacation, as follows. Unanim:>us. (Res. N:>. 77-75)
B:>b Hayes appeared re: Grant for HCod Can.alAdvisory Commission. Grant will cover survey-
and water study of H:>od Canal. Motion by COmmissioner O'M-eara, seconded by Commissione.r
Mercer to approve survey. Unanim?u!? '
Resoluti~n #' 78-75, Authorizing the County Treasurer to transfer funds tQ the SpUd Waste Qudget,
moved by C:>mmissioner Mercer, seconded by Commissioner O'Meara, to appr::>ve and, sign
Resolution#" 78-75 ,. as follows. Unanim:>us.
Notice of Budget Hearings , . Moved by Commissioner O'Meara ,sec':>nded by GominiSsbner
Mercer to approve a.nd sign notice setting budget hearings to start the first M:>nqay in
December. Unanimous.
Mark Kosbff, Presidnet, Sportmen',s Club appeared re: Shooting Range plans. Mr. Kosioff
informed the B::>ard the Club has seeded a secti::>n of the sho:>tingrange (lOO' to the firing point)
and feel they have, it ingo:>~ usable condition. They are now,asking the County to grade,
scrape., and Jill the ,access r::>ad in order to have the range usable for spring' in order buse it
for progr~ ms 'planned at that time. The Board advised Mr. K:>sbff the C :>unty Road Oepartment
is considering moving the access road for County needs as a futher landfill site. This workwil~
be done during the winter months as tiThe is available. The Sp:>rffueri's Club w:>tild like to work
with the Engineer's Department on'. this pr:>jec't in any way they can.
Shirley Oaggett appeared. re: Culvert adjacent,to her property. Engineer Becker said more water
is going int:> the culvert then coming :>ut. In 'order to c:>rrect the existing problem a curtain
drain will have to be installed. 'Engitleer Becker stated it will tear up Mrs . Daggett' s property
considerably. Mrs. Daggett is aware of this, and is willing to g:> abng wUh the work the
Engineeri s Department wants t:> do as long as the situatbn is c:>rrected.. 'I:he Engineer's
Department wiH)nstall the drain in the near future.
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David Johnson, A. loA. I appeared re: Quilcene Community Center. Mr. J:>hnst:>n presented
final preliminary plans ,including the ElectricalEngineer's report, and outline of specifications.
An elevati:>n change of .the building (presented to the Community Club and accepted) was included
in the plans . Mr. J:>hnston requested the B:>ard to grant permission for~he Engineer's Office to
verify the legal description of the property.. The Board approved the elevation change a1so to
have Engineer Becker verify the legal description by moti:>n :>f Commissioner Mercer, seconded
by C;;ommissioner O'Meara. Motion by C()mmissioner O'Meara, seconded by Commissioner to
accept preliminary plans presented . Unanim:>us.
Jeff Pederson appeared in re: Bid pr:>posals...Fuel bids. Pederson said his Oil C:>mpany is interested
in submitting a bid for 1976. He aSked the Board, t:> take into copsideration -the bids including
the West-End. M6'st of the fuel is consumed in this part of the county, and what can be
saved in this area would make up the difference :>f the cost inv:>lved supplying the West-End.
He also asked that the size of tank be stipulated in the bid call.
Minutes:>f October 27th meeting were approved by m::>tion. of Commissioner 0' Meara, and seconded
by C:>mmissioner Mercer. Unanimaus.
Motion by C::>mmissioner O'Meara, seconded by Commissi::>ne.r Mercer, to sign and date
Earnest Money Agreement, for portion of Jefferson General Hospital, as of N:>vember 17, 1975.
Unanimous.
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- Forest Practices Permit, No. FP-02-00754, Thompson, D. Permit approved by the
Board and signed by Chairman Brown. (No Shoreline jurisdiction)
-Action Reports: (Presented and explained for Board's information)
1. Short Subdivision No. S28-75, R. Hiller
2. Short Subdivision No. S29-75, Joyce Tuer
3. Short Subdivision No. S27-75, C. A. Carlson
4. Short Subdivisbn N6. S30-75, A. E. Freeman
Petition for property tax refund was received from Earnest R. Hails for full taxes paid by Hails,
and half tax paid by M. Brown. Board approved and signed petition for refund of $115.51.
Requests for building permit extensions from:
l. Larry A. Scott, Permits NO. 1065,1066. Board will check further due to 2 applications
for 2 workshops.
2. Willis O. Hjellming, Permit NO. 1058. Tabled for further checking.
presented copy of DNR Income State Management of Jefferson County Forest
Board Lands for Board's information.
Wilton Vincent, Land Manager, ITT Rayonier, appeared re: Cedar Timber, Log and Salvage
Material Theft, Western Jefferson County. Mr. Gockerell, Mr. Griffin, Mr. Jack Davis,
Mr. Joe Ness, Mr. Bill Watson, Mr. Decker, Sheriff Hansen, Deputies Kiegen and Booth
also attended the meeting. Mr. Vincent feels this is a public 1 aw enforcement problem
co,n<:;ernfng timber owners and operators. A survey conducted by the Land Owners Assoc.
compared a loss of $100,000 in 1968 compared to 6.7 million dollars annually in 1974. The
highest percentage is 45% Cedar Products resulting in 3 million dollars annually. 82% of the
loss occurs on private property, and 31% results in lost profits created by people on operation
sites, stolen equipment and vandalism. Cedar is also being stolen from State land, some
involved with State sales. It is not feasible to police all areas, due to the eXtreme road system
including as many as 39 possible gates, and a watch man available at all times. The Forest
Service has been trying to salvage remains of cedar trees to help cut down on the thefts. The
deputy in the area is doing his j Db but one deputy is not enough. The Sheriff's department
is limited with a 40-hour week, and no radio contact if too far away from the annex. One part-
time unarmed law enforcement man has been hired, as of December 1st, to work in the area. He
does not have the trainning the Sheriff's Deputy has, nor does he have the authority. He is also
limited to use his authority on State Lands. It is also suggested the use of a radio be provided
for the man hired. Sheriff Robert Hansen stated the forest harvest permits are of no value to
Jefferson County. Permits are too easy to obtain, and the Sheriff's Department has no way of
determining if the permits are valid. Hansen feels an additional deputy will not take care of the
problem, and prefers use of the Forest Service personel and DNR radio system. Hansen is willing
to train their personel. Hansen will make an effort to have another deputy in the area during the
first couple of weeks in December. The only way to correct the conditions that exist is to catch
the indivudals in the act, convict them, and issue a stiff sentence. Until that time maps showing
the current permits, with an update of current permits will be prepared. Another suggestion would be
to shorten the length of time on the permits, and a way to assure permits are not forged. (Some
type of seal) Another improvement would be the legal description of the area involved.
Hemitage, Evaluation con't;
Attending were: Robert Newgard, Developer, Hermitage Camper Club; Chuck Mertel, Attorney;
Bryant Wallar; Pros. Attorney Howard; David Cunningham, Planning Director; Tom Date; and
Jack Cunningham.
Planning Director Cunningham presented a list of findings with respect to: (A) Conditions of
preliminary approval; (B) Reasons for disapproval. Draft 'A' consisted of items reviewed by the
Boord i. e. Camping Club Ordinance, Final Environmental Impact Statement, recommendations of
the various departments, written and oral testimony, etc, and a list of conditions of approval.
Draft 'B' consisted of the same items reviewed by the Board and reasons for disapproval. Attorney
Mertel advised that he had worked with Pros. Attorney Howard and they are in agreement on the
By- Laws and Articles of Incorporation. He said they also discussed a reserve budget for :>peration
and maintenance of the sewerage treatment facility but no definite agreement has been reached at
this time.
Sections of the County Comprehensive Plan was reviewed as related to the proposed camper
club--"Transportation and Circulation" pages 26 and 27; "Recreation Inventory" page 38; "Park
Plan" page 39 and 40; "Recreation Development" page 42; and the "Land Use Map". Cunningham
commented that some of the material is relevant to this proposal, but most is not.
A letter dated N:>vember 14, 1975, and addendum dated November 17, 1975 was submitted for
the records from the District Sanitarian consisting of "Conditions of Approval" . Letter states in
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part "A condition of approval of the sewage disposal system design by the Department of
Ecology is that the County or other municipality must maintain and operate the system once it
is constructed-not the developer." Pros. Attorney Howard said the D.O. E. has interpreted
the statutory language of Title 90, Chapter 28, Section llO as giving them the right to review
and approve the system and the operator, and would not state definitely that they will not accept
a private operator, but they prefer to have it run by a municipality. Mertel said they plan to
submit W.A.C. 248-77-01 to the D.O.E., as it prescribes in detail the sanitation facilities
for camping vehicles, and if not acceptable, will propose the formation of a sewer district.
He said possibly the difference between the regulations is in respect to the duration of parking.
Chairman Brown said that on a 3 to 1 basis, the lots could be usedas actively as a perminent
residence, and evidently the D.O.E. determined the County should be involved or they would
not have required a letter of intent. Durant read section 24896-075 of the State Board of Health
Rules and Regulations stating larger systems shall be developed jointly with the DSHS, local
Health Districts, and the D.O.E. Discussion con't on the type and size of the proposed facility.
Commissioner O'Meara said he was concerned about the impact on the area with the number
of people anticipated, and the possible depleation of shellfish. A large number of pe:>ple come
in by boat daily already and Withdrawing of the proposed boat ramp will n:>t restrict the camper's
use of the beach. Wallar said their information is that boat count is extremely high in the summer.
Jack Cunningham stated that the number of boats that are there now is totally irrelevant because
the shellfish life is maintaining its self-what should be considered now is the two :>r three
thousand people that will be there on the weekends that will have access to the beach from the
shore, which has never been available before. This will greatly increase the tatal head count
on that beach at any given time. Wallar said the main problem is treaspassing and with posting,
treaspassing will be reduced. ThiS area is kn:>wn as a major area for shellfish. Another point
is the water quality in the Hood Canal-its not going to get better-and one source causing problems
is raw sewage from septic tanks from individual homesites in the area. In looking at long range
impact and the affect of this development on the shellfish population, this fact has to be taken
into considera tion. Durant disputed the fact that raw sewage was running in to the canal in
this area.
At this point, conditions 1 thur 21 of draft "A" were reviewed simultaneously with a draft of
conditions of approval submitted by the developers. Pros. Attorney Howard submitted conditions
in the form of "Utility Maintenance Agreement" ,required under No. 18 of said draft "A" relating to
sewage system maintenance. Howard said he neglectedone item that n,eeded to be included and
that is the means by which the dues are to be paid to the County for maintenance and operation.
Commissioner Mercer stated in view of the hours, and days, and weeks, and months of
deliberation and testimony received, and the opposition received from the people in that area,
he feels he would be doi~g an injustice if he had a part to approving this request. He therefore
made a motion to deny. Commissioner O'Meara said due to the various questions that cannot be
answered in relation to the volume of people, etc. he seconded the motion. He stated that he
does not feel the proposal is compatable to the area. Motion made unanimous by Chairman Brown.
Draft "B" findings were then reviewed with Commissioner Mercer stating there was no assurance
of increase of valuation to overcome the increased costs to the County to administer the services,
and he wanted that to be included in the findings. Chairman Brown said they might want to add
to the list as far as their reasons for denial. Cunningham said another point the Board may want
to include is that other alter:natives are available to the developer to develop the property.
Attorney Mertel asked for a seven day delay to afford them the opportunity to explore the
altern atives rather than action being taken at this time. Robert Newgard stated as developer he
has complied with the rules and laws of this County and has proposed a development that both
he and the County can be proud of and now for some reason or other the Commissioner's say that
1 ,000 campers are bad but, 1,000 home sites are good. Commissioner Mercer said 1,000 home
sites would guarantee the County a great increase in tax where to allow monies being spent in
that area. Newgard said they are not asking the County to spend money, but the taxes will go
up way more than the benefits they are asking for because of the tremendous value of improvements
they will make on the property. He said if they reduced the ratio to a 1 to 1 basis but that would
mean septic tanks instead of a sewer system, elimination of the well system, hold the road system,
and all of the playground equipment and would end up with a "rink-a-dink-tinkertoy" trailer park.
After further arguments by Newgard and Mertel, Mertel asked Commissioner O'Meara to with-
draw his second to give them time to regroup.
Under Pros. Attorney Howard's suggestion, Commissioner 0' Meara withdrew his second to
enable the developers 7 additional days to try to meet the concerns of the Board.
Bryant Wallar requested that if the Board has a figure they consider to be an acceptable population
in that area, to relate it to the Planning Department.
Meeting recessed until 9:30 a.m. Tuesday, November 18, 1975.
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